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Nightbrace
11-10-2005, 09:40 PM
Table is full of loose callers, and crazy raisers, any preflop hand is possible. No stats, haven't paid for PAHud yet. With this much money in the pot on the flop is it wrong to call another bet to see another card? What about the turn play? Any and all comments appreciated.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (20.50 SB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP folds, CO calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (14.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, CO calls, Hero folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, CO calls, BB calls.

River: (26.25 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, CO calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 29.25 BB

gharp
11-10-2005, 09:44 PM
Yes, it's wrong to call on the flop because you should be raising.

Nightbrace
11-10-2005, 09:44 PM
even with the 4 cappers preflop?

Nightbrace
11-10-2005, 09:48 PM
I agree I would normally raise at most tables, but was a little gun-shy with 4 cappers pre-flop.

Sightless
11-10-2005, 09:50 PM
what do you mean 4 cappers? Only UTG showed strength by raising and capping the hand, the rest just called his and your bets. On the flop you are very likely to have the best hand, play agressivly and raise his bet

Nightbrace
11-10-2005, 09:52 PM
ok, sorry, one person capped technically, but you know what I mean, 4 people max betted. Was I okay to re-raise pre-flop?

bozlax
11-10-2005, 09:53 PM
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Table is full of loose callers, and crazy raisers, any preflop hand is possible.

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In light of this read, this may be the weak-tightest hand ever (a 29.25BB pot isn't even in the same zip code as the biggest .5/1 pot ever, tho).

Preflop: you got this street right.

Flop: why didn't you raise? Either time the bet got to you? This street should be capped.

Tu...huh? FOLDED?! Ok, I'm done, I can't take this.

RatFink
11-10-2005, 09:53 PM
Pot should have been bigger, if you helped.

Nightbrace
11-10-2005, 09:55 PM
its the biggest I've seen, hands were AA, QQ, and 66, all were trying to slow play the flop I guess.

Sightless
11-10-2005, 10:02 PM
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its the biggest I've seen, hands were AA, QQ, and 66, all were trying to slow play the flop I guess.

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what they have doesnt matter ):

bozlax
11-10-2005, 10:02 PM
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its the biggest I've seen, hands were AA, QQ, and 66, all were trying to slow play the flop I guess.

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This is not only remarkably unlikely, if true it's borderline criminal. This pot should've been 40BB+.

Nightbrace
11-10-2005, 10:14 PM
I know this, but I was worried about AQ, AA, QQ, 66, and A6, since these players would call with anything, I do agree that I had no idea what they may have had, but was just gun-shy on the flop. Raising would have at least given me some information as to where I stood. Just pointing out the hands they had, as I thought this was why the pot got so large.

If I raised the flop and call a cap on the flop, what do I do on the turn if it is bet and raised to me?, at that point I have to call with all the money in pot, but with the expectation of being re-raised and capped. Then what do I do when its 2-bets more to me on the turn?

droolie
11-10-2005, 10:21 PM
I've seen 4 different 120BB pots at .50/1. I'm 0 for 4. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

Nightbrace
11-10-2005, 10:21 PM
wow

Nightbrace
11-10-2005, 10:26 PM
I think I am playing decent at 6max, after 1249 hands my BB/100 hands is 14.71, but I can see that there is much room for improvement. Thanks guys.

zuluking
11-10-2005, 10:27 PM
Grunching:

Preflop is fine. I would raise the flop, if its 3-bet or capped I would check/call the turn at least.

Now on the turn you're only behind to a set of Q's, trip 6's or AQ (the most likely), or AA. I'd stay to the end with this big pot.

bozlax
11-10-2005, 10:32 PM
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...was just gun-shy on the flop....Just pointing out the hands they had, as I thought this was why the pot got so large.

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Listen, you were playing scared, and you wound up folding when you shouldn't have the way the hand was played. The facts that (a) you would have lost and (b) everybody played this hand like crap are immaterial. If the flop had been capped and everybody was still going nuts on the turn, then you probably bail out. As it was, you needed to find a raise on the flop or turn.

And, again, your small sample size to the contrary notwithstanding, this is not a remarkably large pot.

bozlax
11-10-2005, 10:32 PM
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I think I am playing decent at 6max, after 1249 hands my BB/100 hands is 14.71, but I can see that there is much room for improvement. Thanks guys.

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This post brings an entirely new meaning to the concept of "no content."

Nightbrace
11-10-2005, 10:33 PM
so am I playing poorly based on those numbers?

bozlax
11-10-2005, 10:34 PM
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so am I playing poorly based on those numbers?

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Many posters here play that many hands in a session. Your results after 1200 hands, particularly playing 6max, have absolutely no correlation to whether you're playing well or badly, and are not any sort of predictor of your future success.

zuluking
11-10-2005, 10:35 PM
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so am I playing poorly based on those numbers?

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Yes. You should be well over 20. ???? wtf????

benkath1
11-10-2005, 10:37 PM
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I think I am playing decent at 6max, after 1249 hands my BB/100 hands is 14.71, but I can see that there is much room for improvement. Thanks guys.

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Did you say 1249??? Stop now and your winrate will stay unsustainable. Then you can tell all your friends that you rock at poker.

Where is SSS man when we need him?

SampleTOOSMALL
11-10-2005, 10:38 PM
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after 1249 hands my BB/100 hands is 14.71

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ajm36
11-10-2005, 10:46 PM
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I think I am playing decent at 6max, after 1249 hands my BB/100 hands is 14.71

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You are not just a decent player, you are the BEST player EVER. You should skip .5/1 and go straight to 1/2 6max and 2/4 full. Why not take a shot at 3/6?

gharp
11-11-2005, 02:08 AM
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after 1249 hands my BB/100 hands is 14.71

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WHA!!? I thought you were banned SSS! Welcome back, welcome back...

silkyslim
11-17-2005, 02:28 PM
wow 3 bet the flop and stop being a weak tighty at 6max.