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Taraz
11-10-2005, 06:22 PM
I have no idea how to play this hand. What do you do in these situations?

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SB (t1000)
BB (t1000)
UTG (t1000)
UTG+1 (t1000)
UTG+2 (t1000)
MP1 (t1000)
MP2 (t1000)
MP3 (t1000)
CO (t1000)
Hero (t1000)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls t15, UTG+1 calls t15, UTG+2 calls t15, MP1 calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t115</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t115, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls t100, MP1 folds.

Flop: (t412.50) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t450</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t862.50
pineapple888
11-10-2005, 06:24 PM
Looks fine to me.
bigt439
11-10-2005, 06:25 PM
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Looks fine to me.

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Femto
11-10-2005, 06:31 PM
methinks that overcard saved you from losing your stack.
junkmail3
11-10-2005, 06:37 PM
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Just to concur. I'd do the exact same thing. For what it's worth, I would interperate his large bet to say that he has a K, or AA and doesn't want any draw to come along.
vinyard
11-10-2005, 06:40 PM
With position (you're the button right?) I call this raise pre-flop. If MP2 hadn't made his bet (its a clear fold once he does) would you have been willing to fire out a 2/3 pot bet to take it down? Or were you planning on check/folding after that flop?
Taraz
11-10-2005, 06:55 PM
I have no idea what I'd do if he had checked the flop. Probably bet it.

For those who are wondering he had QJ, TT checkraised all-in and he called.
junkmail3
11-10-2005, 07:03 PM
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I have no idea what I'd do if he had checked the flop. Probably bet it.


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Yes, bet 1/2 pot and take it from there.
11-11-2005, 10:34 AM
I think you played JJ very well here. I suppose that's JJ for you, you can play it perfectly and still feel like you have no idea what you're doing.

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bawcerelli
11-11-2005, 10:42 AM
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I have no idea what I'd do if he had checked the flop. Probably bet it.

For those who are wondering he had QJ, TT checkraised all-in and he called.

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did he at least have QJ spades? at any rate, the guy with TT has balls. or is a donk.
11-11-2005, 10:51 AM
The observant student will notice that hero had the Js. No donk shortage here.
bawcerelli
11-11-2005, 10:53 AM
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The observant student will notice that hero had the Js. No donk shortage here.

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ty for pointing it out. and now the super super observant student will notice he couldn't have had QJ clubs for the backdoor flush. he did have a backdoor two pair draw though.
11-11-2005, 10:55 AM
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I have no idea what I'd do if he had checked the flop. Probably bet it.

For those who are wondering he had QJ, TT checkraised all-in and he called.

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Hero had J of spades. From the hands I've seen posted of the 55's, it seems like they play no different than the 11's. Maybe that's just because people post them for the ridiculous nature of them?

did he at least have QJ spades? at any rate, the guy with TT has balls. or is a donk.

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Hero had J of spades. From the hands I've seen posted of the 55's, it seems like they play no different than the 11's. Maybe that's just because people post them for the ridiculous nature of them? I mean, I can't see anybody who's played more than 150 SNGs making plays like these.
bawcerelli
11-11-2005, 11:01 AM
they're tougher than the 11's, but you'd be surprised how bad some players are.
tigerite
11-11-2005, 11:02 AM
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they're tougher than the 11's, but you'd be surprised how bad some players are.

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Amen to that.
11-11-2005, 11:59 AM
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The observant student will notice that hero had the Js. No donk shortage here.

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ty for pointing it out. and now the super super observant student will notice he couldn't have had QJ clubs for the backdoor flush. he did have a backdoor two pair draw though.

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lol, now the call makes sense.
11-11-2005, 12:56 PM
First hand? If I think I'm better than most of the competition (and I do at $55), then I fold preflop. Why get involved with a hand you might win a small pot, unless you trip, or lose a big one. Use your skill to beat these, not the first decent looking hand.

Later, if that guy is pushy, I'll reraise him (not call) with JJ preflop and make him pay to outdraw me (betting about 130% of the pot - unless that's going to pot commit me, then it's all going in).

Much Later - I'll push anyway ;-)

That answer would change if, say, I was playing a 1-winner double shootout, where I need a stack to work with - then I play this hand hard, cross my fingers and either move on or have some chips to work with (against great players).