Playing high/drunk

What are some typical tendencies of players that play poker while under the influence of
a) marijuana?
b) alcohol?

[Camajan]

a) tight passive
B) loose aggressive
that´s my personal tendency and i think it fits to most players.
it depends on individual tolerance.

Alcohol makes me loose-aggressive. Preflop standards? What are those? I check-raise more often (with nothing) and raise weak draws.

I had a ridiculous drunken idea to play like a maniac until someone asked what I was doing. I'd tell them I was drunk, and then tighten up when they started playing back at me. It was surprisingly effective.

[AceHiStation]

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I had a ridiculous drunken idea to play like a maniac until someone asked what I was doing. I'd tell them I was drunk, and then tighten up when they started playing back at me. It was surprisingly effective.

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I've cleaned up a 400NL table or two with this strategy, I'd avoid this in the higher games though.

I'd agree with weed making you tight and alcohol making you loose, but I think the passive/aggressive characteristics are player-dependent, as I've seen both sides from both drugs.

[The Don]

Alcohol: caused me to be sitting with 1150BB at an NL50 6max table one time. Also cost me 9 buyins in a single session of 50NL 6max.

Weed: I did a ton of my SNG grinding stoned this summer and my results were quite impressive. I think this affects your play way less.

[Autocratic]

Alcohol definitely makes you loose, and lose concentration in general. I play fine while stoned, generally tight, and maybe sometimes a little too passive.

[SNOWBALL138]

For some reason, I play ok B&M poker when I am drunk but online I spew chips like a mofo. I checkraise with nothing all the time. I stop thinking about my own cards and just "play the player", which is a poor strategy for limit hold em a lot of the time. I raise preflo in late position with almost anything. I 3 bet with hella medium pairs, and AT, KQ hands. Its pretty ridiculous.

When I play live though, I tend to be ordering hella coffee to overcome my drunken handicap. I'll play after drinking live in low limit games (4/8 and below), but its always after a party or something. Its never a plan to go drunk. I never drink anything but coffee, water, and orange juice at the casino.

Last time I danced with the Chiba goddess, I couldn't count outs, frequently forgot which position I was in, and played really passively. I had no interest in beating other people, but I remember thinking "I hope I get lucky."

I play horribly when I am stoned, and I usually play and think poorly for about 2-3 days afterwards. Mary Jane has a powerful lingering effect on me.

[Iolaus]

MJ turns me into a calling station.

I don't really drink much but from what I've noticed in others it turns them LAG.

[gildwulf]

I am a SLAG from playing six-handed and being drunk turns me into a LAG. When I play high I'm lucky if I can see my cards correctly so I couldn't really say what style that is.

When I play drunk online, my starting hand requirements usually drop off a little and I start bluffing calling stations. Occasionally I'll misread opponent's hands because I don't realize what they're drawing to. In live play, oddly enough, I can usually focus enough to do okay. I won a NL tourney in a bar when I was drunk off my ass. Not exactly the WSOP, but I did win a poker tabletop out of the deal. Most people I see drunk at the tables turn into calling stations, with an occasional maniac thrown in.

The one guy that sticks out in my mind was at Bellagio a few years back. He started out playing okay, but after a while the waitress stopped asking and just brought him a Bud longneck every time she came by. I lost count, but he was definitely gone. He could never remember his hole cards, and he turned into the worst calling station I've ever seen. Never bet, never raise. Always call. Even if he had the nuts (which he was apparently unaware of, because he'd just turn over his cards and let the dealer figure it out.) He bled off five or six racks of white at a 4-8 table.

The hell of it is, eventually the cards just ran over him like a tidal wave. He made back all his money and probably an extra $100 by the time he stumbled out. Crazy stuff.

You eat the red chips because you think they are made of candy.

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Mary Jane has a powerful lingering effect on me.

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Yeah, that stuff used to give me a hangover of sorts that messed up my concentration. I don't use anymore, and was never a big dopehead to begin with. I just think it makes you stupid if you become a chronic user.

I never play well drunk. It definitely loosens my game, which might not be a bad thing, but I have problems focusing on my game and end up finding my mind wandering or chatting with other players.

I have found that I play a significantly improved game if I just have a slight beer buzz. It makes me into an aggressive and instinctive player with a better feel for the game than I would normally have. Funny, the same thing was true for me when I used to shoot 8 ball every day in college. Best games I ever played where when I was just a little buzzed.

From playing a lot of home games, I see that alcohol makes tight passive sloppy loose aggressive. I haven't seen too many good players play drunk live, but maybe that's why they stay profitable. THC, I think, tends not to affect a skilled player's style as much but will really tighten up a weaker player. Also, if you are not partaking in the activities, try to switch the game to Omaha or Seven Card, b/c high people will often forget what what cards have been exposed and subsequently folded, or will goof up and play three hole cards in omaha more often (happens to everyone here there).

[usi34]

I saw a guy fold fold JJ to a check raise all in on a board of 3 J A rainbow. The guy that moved on was extremely LAG too. The guy who folded was stoned.

[Autocratic]

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I saw a guy fold fold JJ to a check raise all in on a board of 3 J A rainbow. The guy that moved on was extremely LAG too. The guy who folded was stoned.

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And he then showed his hand? This couldn't have happened.

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For some reason, I play ok B&M poker when I am drunk but online I spew chips like a mofo.

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i more or less agree!!!.... no problem having a bunch of drinks at a casino. i think it actually calms me down in terms of not getting frustrated at bad cards. after a few drinks, i can just chat at the table much more easily and i think (not sure about this) that i would actually give off fewer tells while drinking (not a crazy number or anything).

but online at home drinking wine, i think you can go pretty crazy...

so i think drinking B&M is fine, as long as you don't overdo it..

[SNOWBALL138]

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Yeah, that stuff used to give me a hangover of sorts that messed up my concentration. I don't use anymore, and was never a big dopehead to begin with. I just think it makes you stupid if you become a chronic user.

I never play well drunk. It definitely loosens my game, which might not be a bad thing, but I have problems focusing on my game and end up finding my mind wandering or chatting with other players.

I have found that I play a significantly improved game if I just have a slight beer buzz. It makes me into an aggressive and instinctive player with a better feel for the game than I would normally have. Funny, the same thing was true for me when I used to shoot 8 ball every day in college. Best games I ever played where when I was just a little buzzed.

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I shot pool okay drunk. The top cash player at the House of Billiards in Santa Monica always has a beer too.

One time I shot pool stoned. I'm not joking. I think I made zero shots. It was uncanny. I thought the pool table was broken. At this time I was a good shooter. I couldn't play position very well, but I could definitely make a lot of long shots, bank shots, cut shots, etc. I have no idea how people function when they are stoned. Maybe the stuff I get is just too powerful?

[livinitup0]

I dont drink a whole lot, but when I do start drinking at the casino I cant seem to get drunk NEARLY as fast as if im in a bar or just hanging out. I dont know why. I have to have a drink or two just to keep me from bouncing my leg up and down sitting there waiting.

Pot is a different monster. Evryone reacts different with this. I can say from many long long years that if you're a habitual stoner then at most you'll keep your buzz an hour...most likely much less. If anything it relaxes me enough so I dont pull in all the other stresses into my game...work, relationships....ect. If you dont smoke often...then no it is a really bad idea to blaze-play.

[mike4bmp]

If they're high they usually take too fu--in long to make a decision....drunks are just obnoxious and play horribly. But I would rather be at a table with 8 drunk players than one with just 1 guy blazed on some sh--...slow action irritates the hell out of me...WAKE UP!