Big Lick Bellagio 30

[sthief09]

Button in this hand has only been sitting for 2 orbits, but he got sucked out on by a gambooling tourish who 5-bet preflop with 76s and backed a straight against either his AA top set or AK TPTK (probably TPTK since it was clear someone else in the hand had AK), so he might not be a happy camper. He didn't angrily muck his hand or anything. he just looked kinda shocked. other tendencies I've seen from him is that he appears to be tight (voluntarily played 2 hands in 2 orbits and folded his blinds 3 times to raises) and he played one hand well (he made a good value raise)

SB is too loose preflop because he's bored but plays postflop well aside from being a bit too tight.

Button open raises, SB calls, I call in the BB with 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif9/images/graemlins/heart.gif

Flop J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif6/images/graemlins/spade.gif

SB checks, I bet (for a few reasons. I don't like checkraising live with big hands because I feel like they fold too easily. also I have been donking some sub-par hands against weak players and I would like to show down a donked two pair. the main reason is because I don't think that well live and play much better when I'm in the lead), button calls, SB folds

Turn 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif

I bet, Button thinks for 90-120 seconds and calls. I decide I'm betting any river except a non-diamond A in which case I'm checkraising

River: 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif

I bet, button raises, I call. ok?

[Victor]

i may be biased but i see no reason to call this river.

[Surfbullet]

I feel like youre stuck between the made flush on the turn that sandbagged 1 extra street and the weird AQ-type hand that is pulling a river bluff. Youre probably good here 1 in 9 because he A)rarely has the flush draw to think so hard on the turn B) if he did have it to think so hard it's not a FD he'd likely be confident raising... though I really have no idea how live games like this play.

How was vegas? Is there a trip report somewhere?

Surf

[PokerBob]

what a weird hand. not sure what on earth he is rasing here with on the river that given that he went in the tank on the turn. i smell a bluffy. nice call.

[TStoneMBD]

i think its a good river call. if he has a diamond legitimately worth raising on this river he would have called the turn much faster. for that reason only i like your bet/call.

[bugstud]

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what a weird hand. not sure what on earth he is rasing here with on the river that given that he went in the tank on the turn. i smell a bluffy. nice call.

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I can only see josh losing this if the guy had turned the nut flush.

[Guy McSucker]

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Button in this hand has only been sitting for 2 orbits, but he got sucked out on by a gambooling tourish who 5-bet preflop with 76s and backed a straight against either his AA top set or AK TPTK (probably TPTK since it was clear someone else in the hand had AK), so he might not be a happy camper. He didn't angrily muck his hand or anything. he just looked kinda shocked. other tendencies I've seen from him is that he appears to be tight (voluntarily played 2 hands in 2 orbits and folded his blinds 3 times to raises) and he played one hand well (he made a good value raise)

SB is too loose preflop because he's bored but plays postflop well aside from being a bit too tight.


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These kinds of reads suckses. Can't you give me some numbers?

I am having a hard time finding a hand to beat when raised on the river here. Sure he's grumpy, but your read is that he's kind of solid.

This is an interesting situation: you don't know if he's capable of a river bluff raise; so should you check-call, bet-call or bet-fold?

I would imagine people are more inclined to make a bluff bet than a bluff raise, so I'm thinking check-call might be better than bet-call, but I hate missing out on river value here. So I can't decide. Help everyone!

Guy.

This is why the river bet stinks. Check/call.

[sfer]

Irrelevant to the river play, but part of the reason you checkraise this flop is that your hand looks like a flush draw to a suspicious, possibly steaming, player and you can get two more big bets later if it looks like your draw missed and you sexy.

[oreogod]

I know u mentioned it but I like a CR here...but I dont play live much. If he really took that long to call on the turn, then I call the river.

[thejameser]

ever heard of a "weak when strong" tell?