And we're in the money, but is it time to double up?

[TwistedEcho]

No real reads, the second allin pushed vs my bb a few times, seem typical shortstack push/fold players. We are down to 70 in the 3r, pays top 135 and im about 40th, ave is about 120k.

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UTG (t133488)
UTG+1 (t127806)
MP1 (t78248)
MP2 (t217459)
MP3 (t33085)
CO (t42060)
Hero (t70788)
SB (t64388)
BB (t99214)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t32785</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t41760</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero cries and?!?!</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

I think I'd fold, too likely that CO has a higher pair, and if not that, higher cards. I'd rather play this hand against one of them, but not 2 of them.

[ZootMurph]

I really don't see calling here as an option with 2 players allin. If it is AJ and KQ, you are pretty much in bad shape. If there is an overpair, worse still. Tens against 2 allins is not a great place to be. HU against a short stack is fine, but you are risking half your stack, and it just ain't worth it to me.

I was screaming at you to fold but you couldn't hear me! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

MP3's range is pretty big. He probably does this with 22+, KT+, QJ, A6+ or something along those lines. Maybe even throw in a few pure bluffs.

CO's range is obviously significantly tighter. Maybe 88+, AT+.

You're equity is about 40% in a three-way pot here, so I call.

[nath]

I probably repush, figuring their ranges to be pretty wide, but I don't know if it's a good idea.

I'm folding here.. 10-10 vs. 2 players, you'd have two dodge every card in the deck if they have high cards, or be drawing close to dead with an overpair.

forgot to ask, has MP3 pushed before or is this his first time? Some will situational push with a low stack, others actually wait for good cards.. I will only call if MP3 has been pushing a lot

[TwistedEcho]

pretty new table, only been here about 10 hands - MP3 hasn't played a hand yet, due to action ahead of him, but folded to MP3 and 5bb, i think his push range is huge. At the time i thought it was a pretty easy call, (see Noah's reasoning) and i stand by it, but two people watching didn't seem to approve. I'm getting 2:1 here, and i think we need to have both pushing insanely tight ranges to fold this... Would be interested to see someone come up with a range for both players that makes this a clear fold.

[JustPlayingSmart]

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pretty new table, only been here about 10 hands - MP3 hasn't played a hand yet, due to action ahead of him, but folded to MP3 and 5bb, i think his push range is huge. At the time i thought it was a pretty easy call, (see Noah's reasoning) and i stand by it, but two people watching didn't seem to approve. I'm getting 2:1 here, and i think we need to have both pushing insanely tight ranges to fold this... Would be interested to see someone come up with a range for both players that makes this a clear fold.

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Here's a range:

Player #1: JJ-AA, AK
Player #2, QQ-AA

You don't think that's realistic? What? Ok, then easy call. There's no way you don't have 33% equity in this pot. If you plan to win this tournament, you must make this call.

[NorthernGuy]

I'd fold and wait for a better chance. Against two others, I don't like your chances.

[schwza]

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or be drawing close to dead with an overpair

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actually, you're ~19% vs an overpair. with the blinds and antes, you only need to be ~28% (rough guess) to win the pot to be neutral chipEV. obviously not good, but i've been in worse spots.

the times when MP3 has 46 and CO has 77 or A8 make up for it. also pretty good for you when you see AJ and A9. i gotta call here.