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ShortySaurus

11-09-2005, 08:05 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

MP ($590)
CO ($398)
Button ($532.90)
SB ($397.50)
BB ($374.95)
Hero ($2447.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $2.
Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, Button calls $14, 2 folds.

Flop: ($34) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $30, Button calls $30.

Turn: ($94) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $65, Button calls $65.

River: ($224) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $125, Button raises to $325, Hero ??

hows the line too?

Chaostracize

11-09-2005, 08:50 PM

It's fine. Fold river.

creedofhubris

11-10-2005, 12:00 AM

I like check/call river. It gives them a chance to bluff and you lose about the same amount with check/call as with bet/fold if they have you beat.

Chaostracize

11-10-2005, 02:00 AM

How often do you think villain will bluff after flop raise, flop bet, and turn bet? You think this was a draw? The only draw I see as likely is T9 and it hit so it won't have a reason to bluff. I guess the lower straight draws are possibilities too, but it looks like, on this board, you'll make more by bet/folding.

Edit: I should say it hit it's ten.

phil_ivey_fan

11-10-2005, 02:17 AM

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

MP ($590)
CO ($398)
Button ($532.90)
SB ($397.50)
BB ($374.95)
Hero ($2447.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $2.
Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, Button calls $14, 2 folds.

Flop: ($34) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $30, Button calls $30.

Turn: ($94) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $65, Button calls $65.

River: ($224) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $125, Button raises to $325, Hero ??

hows the line too?

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villain stats and yours?

flawless_victory

11-10-2005, 02:22 AM

river bet is fine...
need to know something about this guy who raised... i think u should prob pay that off, but folding is ok as well... pretty close decision.

psuasskicker

11-10-2005, 11:01 AM

i think u should prob pay that off

What hand can he raise on that river that doesn't beat Hero, other than a complete bluff?

I think calling is nothing other than bluff hunting unless your opponent is stupid enough to raise you with T9 there.

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flawless_victory

11-10-2005, 02:24 PM

ive seen T9 here many timrs.

flawless_victory

11-10-2005, 02:25 PM

also, 3.5:1.
folding QQ on this board getting 3.5:1 closing the action... not sure that can be automatic.

AZK

11-10-2005, 02:28 PM

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ive seen T9 here many timrs.

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not at 2/4

t_petrosian

11-10-2005, 02:55 PM

I can't imagine what they guy would raise with here that doesn't beat you. But we don't know anything about the guy. I like check-calling the river for this very reason... if you're willing to raise $125, just check and call his bet.

Now you're in for a real decision when he raises you...