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z32fanatic
11-09-2005, 05:40 AM
This situation comes up a lot for me and I am usually split on folding and pushing. The key thing I'm looking at here is the 3 people left to act all have less than 7BB and the BB is a 14/3 so he's tight. With the blinds this big and everyone short stacked, should I take the aggressive play and push, trying to increase my stack by 33%, or fold and wait to make a better push in a few hands. If you would push, what is the worst holding you would push with? If you decided to fold, what's the worst hand you would push with?

***** Hand History for Game 3007172378 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:17262757 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Wednesday, November 09, 04:25:25 EDT 2005
Table Table 66861 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: Button ( $1805 )
Seat 5: SB( $2140 )
Seat 7: BB( $1390 )
Seat 8: UTG( $1255 )
Seat 9: UTG+1( $2000 )
Seat 10: HERO( $1410 )
Trny:17262757 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to z32fanatic3 [ 4c Ad ]
UTG folds.
UTG+1 folds.
HERO...

bennies
11-09-2005, 05:44 AM
(pssssst.. pssssst.... come close.... ill whisper you a secret.... i push any two here..... good luck...)

psyduck
11-09-2005, 05:52 AM
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(pssssst.. pssssst.... come close.... ill whisper you a secret.... i push any two here..... good luck...)

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what the [censored]? It's 6 handed and you're in MP.

FOLD.

I'd push A9 though

If you're pushing A4, then you're essentially pushing any two.

bennies
11-09-2005, 05:54 AM
youre kidding right? BB is 300 and Hero is CO (not MP).

11-09-2005, 06:11 AM
I'm not pushing any two, but a fairly wide range

Let's say 22+, A2+, KTo+, K9s+, QJo, QTs+

Annulus
11-09-2005, 06:16 AM
what do you mean by BB is a 14/3?

Also, i'm not opposed to pushing here. This type of play for me is table/image dependant. This is the few times late in a sng where finesse comes into play.

tigerite
11-09-2005, 06:16 AM
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(pssssst.. pssssst.... come close.... ill whisper you a secret.... i push any two here..... good luck...)

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Whilst this is a blatant push with A4o (they need to call with ridiculous ranges to not make it so, BB in the region of any-ace, any-pair), with 32o (say) it is not quite so clear-cut. I mean, yes, the ranges are still quite wide (in the region of 55+,ATo+,A8s+,KQs for Button and SB, with BB at 44+,A9o+,A7s+,KJs) but it's not unheard of for a donk or two to call with this. So ATC would require a slight read.

psyduck
11-09-2005, 06:23 AM
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(pssssst.. pssssst.... come close.... ill whisper you a secret.... i push any two here..... good luck...)

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Whilst this is a blatant push with A4o (they need to call with ridiculous ranges to not make it so, BB in the region of any-ace, any-pair), with 32o (say) it is not quite so clear-cut. I mean, yes, the ranges are still quite wide (in the region of 55+,ATo+,A8s+,KQs for Button and SB, with BB at 44+,A9o+,A7s+,KJs) but it's not unheard of for a donk or two to call with this. So ATC would require a slight read.

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[censored] i need to get SNGPT

[censored]!!!!!!!

bennies
11-09-2005, 06:29 AM
Nice work. I doublechecked your numbers knowing I didn't have to, and you are right. I think 32o is a fold usually, hell, as BB I'd call an allin from a 2+2'er with A7s here.

Annulus
11-09-2005, 06:39 AM
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Nice work. I doublechecked your numbers knowing I didn't have to, and you are right. I think 32o is a fold usually, hell, as BB I'd call an allin from a 2+2'er with A7s here.

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i would easily.

tigerite
11-09-2005, 06:46 AM
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Nice work. I doublechecked your numbers knowing I didn't have to, and you are right. I think 32o is a fold usually, hell, as BB I'd call an allin from a 2+2'er with A7s here.

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So would I, but shhh /images/graemlins/grin.gif

raptor517
11-09-2005, 06:51 AM
this is a joke right? if you ever fold this hand in a spot like this, you probably wont be able to beat the 55s long term. holla

11-09-2005, 06:55 AM
Push. I'll prolly push 22+,A2o+,K7s+,JTo+ from here, top ~25%.

Any two is too loose for me.

psyduck
11-09-2005, 07:02 AM
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this is a joke right? if you ever fold this hand in a spot like this, you probably wont be able to beat the 55s long term. holla

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jesus. no wonder I have a lifetime ROI of 10% and not higher...

ignore me /images/graemlins/frown.gif but I'm learning!!!!!1

z32fanatic
11-09-2005, 03:58 PM
I pushed and they folded. The main reason I posted this was because I've been getting a ton of 6th-4ths in this situation with hands like this so I thought I'd double check that it was the right play.