$22 a,10 early out of BB

[Olback]

How do people play hands like this?

Should i assume that the a,10 is the best hand. I think in hindsight i played it very badly but hands like this early out of the blinds have always been problems for me.

#Game No : 3004659323
***** Hand History for Game 3004659323 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:17250575 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Tuesday, November 08, 20:17:35 EDT 2005
Table Table 69531 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: glebbie ( $1215 )
Seat 3: gabriela123 ( $1360 )
Seat 5: Generallllll ( $635 )
Seat 7: kdunns80 ( $964 )
Seat 8: slapdick1 ( $730 )
Seat 1: Olback17 ( $755 )
Seat 4: slimcad ( $703 )
Seat 9: Legall ( $548 )
Seat 6: ShaolinDuck ( $1090 )
Trny:17250575 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Olback17 [ Ac Th ]
glebbie folds.
gabriela123 folds.
slimcad calls [30].
Generallllll folds.
ShaolinDuck folds.
kdunns80 folds.
slapdick1 folds.
>You have options at Table 69530 Table!.
>You have options at Table 68075 Table!.
Legall calls [15].
>You have options at Table 69530 Table!.
Olback17 checks.
>You have options at Table 67879 Table!.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, Qh, 3d ]
Legall checks.
Olback17 bets [60].
slimcad raises [120].
Legall folds.
Olback17 calls [60].
>You have options at Table 68075 Table!.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
>You have options at Table 69530 Table!.
Olback17 checks.
slimcad bets [100].
Olback17 calls [100].
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
Olback17 checks.
>You have options at Table 67879 Table!.
slimcad bets [100].
Olback17 calls [100].
slimcad shows [ Ad, 9h ] a pair of aces.
Olback17 shows [ Ac, Th ] a pair of aces.
Olback17 wins 730 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces with ten kicker.
Game #3004666677 starts.

[Olback]

Anyone have any opinions on this.

[golfcchs]

use a converter and mabey I could read it. Link (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter/)

[Olback]

I have tried to use that convertor numerous times whilst playing at Eurobet and now at Party and it nevers works for me. I am using the HH's it puts on my PC.

[golfcchs]

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I have tried to use that convertor numerous times whilst playing at Eurobet and now at Party and it nevers works for me. I am using the HH's it puts on my PC.

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I see it only works on the hands that you get when you get them from the party hand history window. Could you at leat clean these up by taking out all the garbage at the end and when it is telling you that you have other tables ready.

[golfcchs]

By the way it looks pretty standard to me, but I would fold if the flush hit and it looked like he wanted a call.

Tricky hand.

Yeah at $22 I think you played it fine. Maybe higher limits and I may fold to the raise or turn bet.

[ilya]

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Seat 6: ShaolinDuck ( $1090 )


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holy crap I'm famous!

re: hand, IMO your line is fine.

[AllinDan]

I like your line.

Your bet of 60 out of the blind can easily be a queen, underpair, or simply an attempt to pick up a pot on a scary board against a villain who has showed no strength.

You have to call his flop raise of 60 into a pot of 210, and then you show weakness on each street yet are able to get to showdown fairly cheaply.

At the 22s, there are still a lot of players who will limp weak aces, and I think its fair to assume hed raise with AK/AQ.

I think I'd probly fold to a bet of 200 on the turn, and think long and hard about folding to a bet of 150, but I think you have to call the 100/100.

I think the key here is that you are the blind and thus villain is valuebetting even weak aces. You really don't show any strength at any point in the hand.

[Olback]

Well the miniraise was what throw me. Maybe i should have reraised him there?

The problem is a,10 is good against alot of donks. I doubt he would have limped with a,k or a,q. So i was really worried about a,j or bigger hands.

I just keep thinking that i should have been betting instead of check/calling.

[AllinDan]

The minraise there seems fairly donkish on his part, but I still think it has more to do with you being the blind rather than any kind of trickyness on his part. He's raising AQ/AK/QQ/AA pf, might have 33 or A3 or AJ.. . and that's all you're worried abot.

Do you really want to play for your whole stack with AT, early and out of position?

A reraise seems to me like one of those "wanting to know where you're at" raises when villain has already told you something about it. What are you going to raise to? Any significant flop reraise puts a ton of your stack at risk in a spot where you really don't want to risk it. You don't yet know whether he's a donk that will pay you off with just a weak ace, so I think your goal is to get to showdown as cheaply as possible.

If you reraise on the flop and he calls, what do you do on the turn? And he won't be folding to your reraise because he just raised you, so are you risking your stack with a ten for kicker?

I think you have the same problem if you lead the turn. When he calls do you valuebet the river? Do you fold to a turn raise?

I play this hand wanting to get to showdown cheap.

maybe someone better than me thinks differently?

[tigerite]

You got paid off about the most you would anyway, and made him keep betting with an inferior hand. But at the same time you can never rate to be ahead by enough to raise yourself. It's a good line, and well played. I'd play it the same FWIW.