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HoldingFolding
11-08-2005, 08:57 PM
In the spirit of the MTT "play a hand with the masters" post. I'd be interested to know how you'd play this hand.
This is the 8th hand. I have played one hand. Limping in LP, then folding to a flop bet. Villain has played 3 hands, 2 limps then flop folds, one call of a 50 pre flop bet in SB, then calling a 50 flop bet before folding to a 200 turn bet (when the flush draw didn't hit?).
I'm assuming preflop is standard, but maybe not?
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: seat 1 (970)
Seat 2: seat 2 (1045)
Seat 3: seat 3 (1775)
Seat 4: seat 4 (1075)
Seat 5: Hero (985)
Seat 6: Villain (885)
Seat 7: seat 7 (920)
Seat 8: seat 8 (530)
Seat 9: seat 9 (895)
Seat 10: seat 10 (920)
seat 3 posts small blind (10)
seat 4 posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 8d, 8c ]
Hero calls (15)
Villain raises (45) to 45
seat 7 folds.
seat 8 folds.
seat 9 folds.
seat 10 folds.
seat 1 folds.
seat 2 folds.
seat 3 calls (35)
seat 4 folds.
Hero calls (30)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jd, 9d, Ts ]
Seat 3 checks.
Hero ????
gildwulf
11-08-2005, 09:03 PM
Given your read on the villain I would check-raise the flop and, if you can knock out the caller, lead the turn. If SB calls then you're screwed. Any broadway on turn is a turbomuck...but if a blank falls and it's you vs. villain I would throw out a medium-sized bet and fold to a push.
Then again I just got back from a vacation playing SH and I am an aggressive *&()((*.
Depends on whether I'd won the sidebet for that hand. If I'd won my All Red bet then I'd be shoving my chips in and feeling lucky. If not then it's early days with arsey blinds and maybe there are better opportunities later.
Spades are red? /images/graemlins/confused.gif
As for the hand, check/fold probably.
bigt439
11-09-2005, 12:24 AM
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Check/fold
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Yup.
This doesn't look like it's going to go the way of play a hand with the masters.
HoldingFolding
11-09-2005, 09:12 PM
Maybe not, but considering how few hands I actually play past the flop, I thought the hand could be analysed...
Anyway back to the hand....
This is the 8th hand. I have played one hand. Limping in LP, then folding to a flop bet. Villain has played 3 hands, 2 limps then flop folds, one call of a 50 pre flop bet in SB, then calling a 50 flop bet before folding to a 200 turn bet (when the flush draw didn't hit?).
I'm assuming preflop is standard, but maybe not?
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: seat 1 (970)
Seat 2: seat 2 (1045)
Seat 3: seat 3 (1775)
Seat 4: seat 4 (1075)
Seat 5: Hero (985)
Seat 6: Villain (885)
Seat 7: seat 7 (920)
Seat 8: seat 8 (530)
Seat 9: seat 9 (895)
Seat 10: seat 10 (920)
seat 3 posts small blind (10)
seat 4 posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 8d, 8c ]
Hero calls (15)
Villain raises (45) to 45
seat 7 folds.
seat 8 folds.
seat 9 folds.
seat 10 folds.
seat 1 folds.
seat 2 folds.
seat 3 calls (35)
seat 4 folds.
Hero calls (30)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jd, 9d, Ts ]
Seat 3 checks.
(Pot is 145)
<font color="red"> Hero bets 125
Villain calls fairly quickly
Seat 3 folds
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6s ]
</font>
Hero ????
tigerite
11-09-2005, 09:14 PM
You've already cocked up by betting the flop with the ignorant part of the straight and with three overcards there. Now is the time to check/fold, as you should have on the flop.
bigt439
11-09-2005, 09:15 PM
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Check/fold
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This time for the turn. Please don't post the river.
HoldingFolding
11-09-2005, 09:24 PM
So he called because he's slowplaying me?
HoldingFolding
11-09-2005, 09:25 PM
So much hostility, so little analysis.
tigerite
11-09-2005, 09:26 PM
Look man what do you have? Seriously. Look at the board. You have a pair below any card on the board, there's straight and flush possibilities out there, your reverse implied odds are horrible, and even if he's on a draw he's almost certainly a favourite against your 8's. Even if you hit a Q you can't be sure you're good, and if you hit an 8 you're in a world of pain.. what's the point? Just let it go. You might as well have 72o in this situation, at least you'd know where you stand.
HoldingFolding
11-09-2005, 09:43 PM
Can you put him on a range?
tigerite
11-09-2005, 09:44 PM
You're not listening are you? His range is inconsequential, because by the time you figure out if you're currently ahead of what he actually holds or not, you've put so much into the pot you're going to be calling anyway. Do you think you're ahead here enough of the time to be betting the pot for 125? Your line here is a leak. I'll say no more.
bigt439
11-09-2005, 10:39 PM
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So much hostility, so little analysis.
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This post requires much of the former and little of the latter.
Alright, I'm busting your balls a bit and I'm really half joking my way through this thread, but dude you should be able to know why this spot sucks and is such a no brainer. Just listen to tigerite, there's no point in saying it twice.
HoldingFolding
11-10-2005, 08:19 PM
Just to recap then:
Hero is UTG with 8 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8 /images/graemlins/club.gif
Villain UTG raises to 45
Hero calls
Flop: J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif T /images/graemlins/spade.gif
Hero bets out 125
Villain Calls
Turn 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif
<font color="red"> Hero bets out 155
Villain raises (715) to 715
Villain is all-in </font>
Hero ????
Michael C.
11-10-2005, 08:26 PM
No set, no bet, next hand.
tigerite
11-10-2005, 08:31 PM
No, Hero is going to have called and show us all how brilliant he is because the Villian had some busted draw (this time) and thus it must always be the right move, and isn't at all results-oriented thinking, you see.
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bigt439
11-10-2005, 09:30 PM
Holy [censored]. Fold. How is this last decision even easier than any of the subsequent ridiculously easy decisions.
HoldingFolding
11-11-2005, 05:51 AM
Why? Give me one legitimate hand he has that beats me.
tigerite
11-11-2005, 05:54 AM
Just one? AJ. I could name a bajillion others.
HoldingFolding
11-11-2005, 06:01 AM
So TPBK you call the flop bet with both a straight and flush draw out there.
I'm interested in what the other bajillion are.
tigerite
11-11-2005, 06:03 AM
Yes, especially if I'm playing against you and know you'll call a turn push with 88 ffs.
HoldingFolding
11-11-2005, 06:07 AM
You wouldn't know that though, would you...I hadn't played a hand.
lacky
11-11-2005, 06:49 AM
what i cant understand is why you are posting here since you clearly are disregarding what everyone has to say. I'm assuming after reading all this you made a masterful call and caught him bluffing and are deplaying your superior skills.
What everyone is trying to tell you is regardless of the outcome this one time, you missplayed the dam thing. Let it die for christs sake, it's embarassing.
HoldingFolding
11-11-2005, 08:04 AM
Fair enough.
raptor517
11-12-2005, 07:24 AM
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what i cant understand is why you are posting here since you clearly are disregarding what everyone has to say. I'm assuming after reading all this you made a masterful call and caught him bluffing and are deplaying your superior skills.
What everyone is trying to tell you is regardless of the outcome this one time, you missplayed the dam thing. Let it die for christs sake, it's embarassing.
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someone had a bad week.. /images/graemlins/wink.gif holla
bawcerelli
11-12-2005, 08:46 AM
jesus man if you called that all in...you're the kind of donk we all laugh about around here.
Flop: check/raise
Turn: check/fold or calling a little or medium sized bet and if the river helps you, he maybe pays you out, but its possible you are drawing to dead if an 8 or 7 falls.
You can't do better, he can even has a gutshot with KK and went on tilt.
Next hand...
If you call this all-in, i would like to sit to the same table where you are. /images/graemlins/grin.gif
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