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Silverback
11-08-2005, 06:54 AM
For a hand to be worth playing in the big blind it has to lose less than 0.50

Ive identified the following offsuit problem hands, as you'll see below.

If you want to compare results, filter for between 5-6 players at table, mark the "big blind", mark the "put money in"
check results for hands with between 3-6 players seeing flop.


These seem problem hands to me:
db1 = database 1 80k hands
db2= database 2 36k hands

Hand, db1 bb/100 db2 bb/100 no. of times

K9o -1.63 -3.00 18/2
QTo -0.58 -1.29 22/12
Q9o -1.45 -1.38 21/2
JTo -1.55 -1.40 32/10
J9o -1.13 -2.43 13/7


Ive posted overal results for 3-6 players, however these hands lost badly when 3 players say the flop.

In a full ring game you should be cautious with unsuited hands in the BB, SSH says fold hands like AT, KJ, obviously these are very strong shorthanded, but the ones Ive highlighted are weak, I dont even like playing QT anymore. Theres a whole load of hands that dominate the ones Ive highlighted and they dont have flush and straight potential like some lesser hands.

If other players can check there databases it would be apprceiated so I can see its not just small sample size.

jph0424
11-08-2005, 12:25 PM
My database (180k hands)
using your filters.

K9o -.21 60
QTo -.87 56
Q9o -.27 54
JTo +.83 54
J9o -.19 47

All better than -.5 except for QTo.