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Roman
11-08-2005, 03:03 AM
Playing 5 handed 10/20 NL, effective stacks are 2k.
Unknown UTG raises to 60 B_Buddy next to act calls, I have AA and make it 320, they both call.
Flop Q 7 2 rainbow
They check to me, I check behind
Turn T completing rainbow
Unknown checks, B_Buddy bets 525, I shove?

Allinlife
11-08-2005, 03:13 AM
I really hate the flop check..

if you shove is he calling with worse hand?

I think it's better to call with position and call river or bet river if checked to.

Roman
11-08-2005, 03:17 AM
anyone else I would say no, but with B_Buddy being called by a worse hand is always a possibility.

I checked behind flop cause I thought money would only go in when I was crushed when I bet the flop, also, what do I do to a c/r if I bet flop? fold?

freehat
11-08-2005, 03:23 AM
I think you should bet the flop, say like 400, if you get cr-all-in then call. I dont think you should really ever be looking to fold this postflop on that board.

By checking the flop you are giving freebies to pocket pairs that wouldnt have given you action if you bet and wouldnt bluff if you checked.

Allinlife
11-08-2005, 03:24 AM
you contridict your self sir

bet the flop and you won't kill your self after letting villans hit 5~2 outers on turn for free. like it's so amazingly easy for you to play the hand correct/get paid off if you bet the flop.

only time I'd consider checking flop is if you had top set on board as dry as this, then free cards can't break you, rather break them.

Roman
11-08-2005, 03:30 AM
well obviously its dangerous letting them hit their outs for free, the only thing is that if I bet the flop, its very obvious I have AA-QQ and nothing else, making it super easy for them to play against me correctly.

Big_Jim
11-08-2005, 03:31 AM
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its very obvious I have AA-QQ and nothing else,

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If this is very obvious.... you need to re-raise PF more often.

jcmoussa
11-08-2005, 03:32 AM
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anyone else I would say no, but with B_Buddy being called by a worse hand is always a possibility.

B Buddy may be crazy at sometimes, but he's not stupid.

durrrr
11-08-2005, 03:36 AM
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well obviously its dangerous letting them hit their outs for free, the only thing is that if I bet the flop, its very obvious I have AA-QQ and nothing else, making it super easy for them to play against me correctly.

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Bluff more.

Roman
11-08-2005, 10:10 AM
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its very obvious I have AA-QQ and nothing else,

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If this is very obvious.... you need to re-raise PF more often.

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So lets say you were villian in this hand, what range would you put me on? These people have no reads on me by the way.

I see absolutely no value in bluffraising especially versus opponents capable of doing crazy things with no history between us. What % of hands are you reraising here/what is you reraising range?

psuasskicker
11-08-2005, 10:19 AM
I checked behind flop cause I thought money would only go in when I was crushed when I bet the flop, also, what do I do to a c/r if I bet flop? fold?

How can you type this and yet make the case for pushing on the turn? You're scared of running into the nuts on the three card flop, but that magic fourth card that helps you in no way allows you to commit your stack?

I hate your flop check, but if you're gonna play it like that, I agree with the "call turn, call river or bet if checked to" advice already given.

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