Easy push? (Stars 45k)

[Nato76]

First post here. I'm trying to improve my MTT game. This is with about 100 players left. I win this and I am chip leader. Call? Easy push?



PokerStars Game #2994739415: Tournament #14414196, Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2005/11/07 - 02:12:46 (ET)
Table '14414196 137' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: stayart (232377 in chips)
Seat 2: Walt75904 (45110 in chips)
Seat 3: 9_balla (63267 in chips)
Seat 4: scgolfer (42530 in chips)
Seat 5: MasterVlad (53124 in chips)
Seat 7: MrDelnoche (108395 in chips)
Seat 8: GYPSY 98 (193465 in chips)
Seat 9: Nato1976 (155958 in chips)
stayart: posts the ante 200
Walt75904: posts the ante 200
9_balla: posts the ante 200
scgolfer: posts the ante 200
MasterVlad: posts the ante 200
MrDelnoche: posts the ante 200
GYPSY 98: posts the ante 200
Nato1976: posts the ante 200
Nato1976: posts small blind 2000
stayart: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Nato1976 [5s 5h]
Walt75904: folds
9_balla: folds
scgolfer: folds
MasterVlad: folds
MrDelnoche: folds
GYPSY 98: folds
Nato1976: raises 8000 to 12000
Tamilen is connected
stayart: calls 8000
*** FLOP *** [3h 7d 5d]
Nato1976: bets 16000
stayart: raises 16000 to 32000

[Sam T.]

Clearly the villain called your raise with 64. Fold.

Seriously, if he had 77 or sucked out, that's either bad luck or a bad beat. Of course you're going to felt here.

yep,easy push.

[Nato76]

Ok. Better question would be how would you have played this hand? Bet more preflop? Bet more on the flop? I will post the results after a few more comments/suggestions.

[charlieD]

you played it well so far. after getting raised on the flop move in, no free cards here. if you get beat so be it.

think the way you played it was pretty close to perfect IMO. Don't be too results oriented thinking. He thought you were stealing blinds and called with a 4 6 or 2 diamonds and rivered the flush. Pushing was the right move.

[Sam T.]

In the SB I always raise more than 3BB pre-flop, because I'll be OOP for the rest of the hand, and that sucks. In this case, you also don't much want a flop simply because it will probably include overcards.

On the flop: Yahtzee! I agree betting out is right. It's usually right. The min-raise I see as a weak bet. He's drawing, or thinks you missed the flop, or both. With a diamond and str8 draws on the table, it's time to shut this down. After his min-reraise there's roughly 70k in the middle. With 130k left behind, you can't make any raise except a push. (Any real reraise would have to be to t70k, but at but then you're left with only t60k and t140k pot, which is no good.)

Push.

[Nato76]

He thinks for a while and ends up calling. I think because of my weak bet after the flop he took it as a steal. I'm thinking a bigger bet might have taken it without a reraise.

*** FLOP *** [3h 7d 5d]
Nato1976: bets 16000
stayart: raises 16000 to 32000
Nato1976: raises 111758 to 143758 and is all-in
stayart: calls 111758
stayart said, "i just dont believe you"
stayart said, "fack"
*** TURN *** [3h 7d 5d] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [3h 7d 5d 8d] [2d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Nato1976: shows [5s 5h] (three of a kind, Fives)
stayart: shows [7h Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
stayart said, "ugg"
stayart collected 313116 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 313116 | Rake 0
Board [3h 7d 5d 8d 2d]
Seat 1: stayart (big blind) showed [7h Ad] and won (313116) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: Walt75904 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 9_balla folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: scgolfer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: MasterVlad folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: MrDelnoche folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: GYPSY 98 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Nato1976 (small blind) showed [5s 5h] and lost with three of a kind, Fives

[People_Mover]

easy push. nh

You got your money in as a 93% favorite, you made a good play, over 9 times out of 10 you're going to double up there. What if you went all in preflop with AA and he called with 72 offsuit? Well he has a better chance of winning that hand than he does this hand. Good play, unlucky result.

[Nato76]

One thing I did learn from this post is to stop being so results oriented. I am going to continue to post hands. Next time I will post one that involves a more difficult decision. I think this will help my overall game. Thank you guys for taking the time to respond.

[yvesaint]

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He thinks for a while and ends up calling. I think because of my weak bet after the flop he took it as a steal. I'm thinking a bigger bet might have taken it without a reraise.


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no way, you want all of his chips in their on the flop, pronto

[Sam T.]

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He thinks for a while and ends up calling. I think because of my weak bet after the flop he took it as a steal. I'm thinking a bigger bet might have taken it without a reraise.

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No, no no! I understand where you're coming from, but you want him to make this play. Your goal is not to blast your opponents out of a hand when they are way behind, it is to keep them in the hand when they are way behind. You did this, and your hand didn't stand up. He's a lucky duck, and that's all there is to it.