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Doc

11-06-2005, 08:58 AM

No reads yet

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

MP3 (t455)
CO (t815)
Button (t775)
SB (t1380)
BB (t655)
UTG (t770)
UTG+1 (t500)
UTG+2 (t755)
Hero (t620)
MP2 (t1275)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t15, 1 fold, Hero raises to t50, MP2 calls t50, 4 folds, BB calls t35, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: (t172.50) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (t172.50) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks.

River: (t172.50) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: t172.50

Anyone here lead out with a cb, possibly delayed until the turn?

splashpot

11-06-2005, 09:20 AM

Ehh. I usually don't like to CB against 2 opponents unless I'm very sure that they will fold. I'd say a half pot CB on either the flop or the turn is acceptable. Checking down is also acceptable.

handsome

11-06-2005, 09:25 AM

Just fold preflop.

splashpot

11-06-2005, 09:28 AM

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I think you're way too tight, man. AQ is playable from any position unless you're facing a raise. It may be a difficult hand to play, but it's definately +EV to play it.

Killer Man's Son

11-06-2005, 09:34 AM

I probably would have bet a little more pre-flop. 75 sounds about right to me. Also, this may have narrowed you down to one caller making a CB bet on the flop more liely to succeed.

I would have CB on the flop into two opponents (but keep in mind I'm an agressive player). The check here works as well.

I definitely would have CB the turn though.

Doc

11-06-2005, 09:37 AM

I've heard the idea of folding AQo preflop before, but it just seems too tight to me. For those of you with an adequate data set, is it + or - EV for you?

Doc

tigerite

11-06-2005, 09:38 AM

I would limp pf from early MP, AQo is nasty to play OOP on the flop.

Folding doesn't even enter my mind.

handsome

11-06-2005, 09:39 AM

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I think you're way too tight, man. AQ is playable from any position unless you're facing a raise. It may be a difficult hand to play, but it's definately +EV to play it.

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With no reads, crappy position and not that many chips, in a 22, AQo is disgusting at this level of the tournament.

Killer Man's Son

11-06-2005, 09:40 AM

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I've heard the idea of folding AQo preflop before, but it just seems too tight to me. For those of you with an adequate data set, is it + or - EV for you?

Doc

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I look at it this way. If he had a hand better than AQ, he would have raised unless he has a middle pair. Which means when you contination bet on the flop with overs to his MP, he has some serious thinking to do.

Folding AQ here is way too tight.

11-06-2005, 10:22 AM

Full table with level one blinds I am chucking this
pre flop.

Different table dynamics then I am making a play.

Hendricks433

11-06-2005, 04:17 PM

I just limp with AQ this early. Ive actually been having problems with AK and limp in ep and mp and raise in lp. In early blind levels. When it hits 25/50 I get more agressive with these hands cause pots are starting to matter alot. I just find my self in trouble way too often raising AQ in early and mp. Im not folding it but I will to a UTG, UTG+1 raise most of the time.