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Drontier
11-05-2005, 08:40 PM
I hate this...Opponents are practically unknown. I have maybe 3 rounds of stats on them...
This is probably the first time this has ever happened to me. How bad? :P

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.
MP limps, CO raises, I call, MP calls.

Flop: 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks.

Turn: 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks.

River: A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks.

Final Pot:

ChuckyB
11-05-2005, 08:50 PM
With unknown opponents...
3-bet pre-flop...
Bet the flop...
Get all the bets in you can on the turn (2nd-nut flush draw + top 2 pair)
Bet the river, unless something on the turn makes you think JT for the straight.

With how you did it, you have to bet the river.

mute
11-05-2005, 08:56 PM
I am speechless.

cookie
11-05-2005, 08:58 PM
Raise pf
bet flop
bet turn
bet river

Why is it we make money? because people calls too much, so bet bet bet

Nemmy
11-05-2005, 09:00 PM
On the flop, you are going to win about 85% of the time against two random hands.

On the turn, you are going to win about 86% of the time.

On the river, you are going to win about 88% of the time.

I think that you should have tried to trap on the flop, but bet out on the turn and river.

Drontier
11-05-2005, 09:04 PM
I figured after 2 straight rounds of checks, no sane player checks it down again. On the flop, doesn't original PF raiser even if its unknown bet like 95% of the time? So I'm obvisouly trying to c/r flop. I was leading any non A river, btw. WIth Button checking the flop and again on the turn, I had to put him on an Ax. Is my thinking here that horrible?

cookie
11-05-2005, 09:05 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I hate this...Opponents are practically unknown. I have maybe 3 rounds of stats on them...
This is probably the first time this has ever happened to me. How bad? :P

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.
MP limps, CO raises, I call, MP calls.

Flop: 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks.

Turn: 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks.

River: A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks.

Final Pot:

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btw, where is CO postflop?

Drontier
11-05-2005, 09:06 PM
btw do you guys 3 bet this pf?

by all means, this hand is NOT STANDARD. its happened to me once. im just wondering how bad it is.

cookie
11-05-2005, 09:07 PM
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btw do you guys 3 bet this pf?

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Yes

Drontier
11-05-2005, 09:09 PM
i hate taking the lead OOP, when i know for sure its going to be 3 handed. Especially with a hand with "very little" showdown value.

cookie
11-05-2005, 09:20 PM
What limit was it?

Im think ur EQ often enough will be better than 33.3%

Drontier
11-05-2005, 09:20 PM
10/20

wdcbooks
11-05-2005, 10:16 PM
[ QUOTE ]
btw do you guys 3 bet this pf?

by all means, this hand is NOT STANDARD. its happened to me once. im just wondering how bad it is.

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I am afraid it is really pretty horrid. I might well have led the flop hoping for a raise. Given the chekc though you must always bet the turn. There are any number of draws that would be only too happy to take a free card, but would pay a bet to see the river.

The CO's passivity is certainly unusual, but that can't be used as an excuse for this monstrosity.

imported_leader
11-05-2005, 10:41 PM
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I am speechless.

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cookie
11-05-2005, 10:45 PM
Well, since u did not 3-bet pf (people, do we 3-bet here???) U have do bet the flop, a c/r sux, we wont money in the pot, not nocking people out

wowacedude
11-05-2005, 11:51 PM
I like money =)