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11-05-2005, 06:04 PM
Okay guys I am trying to figure out how to manually calculate ROI as SNG Tracker does not support Full Tilt Poker.

Anyways what I found in the FAQ was this calculation to use...

(Total Prizes Won - Total Buyins Paid) / (Total Buyins) = ROI Percentage

So say for example...

$2600 (Prizes) - $1100 (buyins) / 100 Buyins = 15% ROI?

Correct?

If someone could confirm or deny my calculations it would be greatly appreciated. Preferably a long time poster who knows for sure these calculations.

SuitedChef

11-05-2005, 06:25 PM
Net Profit / Total Buy-In $ Amount

11-05-2005, 06:40 PM
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If someone could confirm or deny my calculations it would be greatly appreciated. Preferably a long time poster who knows for sure these calculations.

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Deny.

I don't know why you'd need a long-time poster to help you, this is (remedial) high school math.

11-05-2005, 07:12 PM
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Net Profit / Total Buy-In $ Amount

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So say you have this:

$2600 (net profit) / $1100 (total buyin) = 2% ROI?

tigerite
11-05-2005, 07:16 PM
No. Your net profit is $2600 over 100 $11 SnG's? Really? This seems a "bit" high.. are you sure it's not that you won $2600 minus the $1100 buyins, as you said in your first post?

11-05-2005, 07:18 PM
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No. Your net profit is $2600 over 100 $11 SnG's? Really? This seems a "bit" high.. are you sure it's not that you won $2600 minus the $1100 buyins, as you said in your first post?

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No, lol. Dont mind the numbers. The numbers are purely made up. I am just using them as a tool/example to try and figure out how to calculate ROI manually. I just need the equation.

tigerite
11-05-2005, 07:21 PM
ROI stands for, itself, Return Over Investment.

So, your return i.e. profit, divided by your investment, then * 100 to get the %. In your first example, if we assume the profit is $1500 and not $2600, then $1500 / $1100 = 1.36 * 100 = 136%.

11-05-2005, 07:24 PM
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ROI stands for, itself, Return Over Investment.

So, your return i.e. profit, divided by your investment, then * 100 to get the %. In your first example, if we assume the profit is $1500 and not $2600, then $1500 / $1100 = 1.36 * 100 = 136%.

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YOWSERS!

136% ROI!

LOL!

I can see why when you thought my numbers were real, you were quite skeptical... /images/graemlins/smile.gif

So basically say that I start with $1100 bankroll.

I play some SNGs and I have $2600 - $1100 bankroll is $1500 return.

So you divide the 1500/1100 (bankroll) and then times it by 100 for the ROI percentage, correct?

tigerite
11-05-2005, 07:27 PM
Yeah - let's say you win 30 of them ( = $1.5k), come 2nd in 20 ( = $600) and 3rd in 25 ( = $500) then your 'winnings' are $2.6k minus the buyins of $1.1k to give final profit of $1.5k. Then divide by the buyins of $1.1k again and *100.. that's the ROI.

Pretty unlikely you'd be ITM 75% of the time, mind.. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Oh and finally your initial bankroll hasn't got anything to do with it, the $1.1k is how much you have spent in buy-in + vig in the 100, which is $11 * 100, naturally.

11-05-2005, 07:34 PM
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Yeah - let's say you win 30 of them ( = $1.5k), come 2nd in 20 ( = $600) and 3rd in 25 ( = $500) then your 'winnings' are $2.6k minus the buyins of $1.1k to give final profit of $1.5k. Then divide by the buyins of $1.1k again and *100.. that's the ROI.

Pretty unlikely you'd be ITM 75% of the time, mind.. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Oh and finally your initial bankroll hasn't got anything to do with it, the $1.1k is how much you have spent in buy-in + vig in the 100, which is $11 * 100, naturally.

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Awesome.

I finally get it. LOL! Thanks man!

bjb23
11-05-2005, 07:37 PM
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ROI stands for, itself, Return Over Investment.

So, your return i.e. profit, divided by your investment, then * 100 to get the %. In your first example, if we assume the profit is $1500 and not $2600, then $1500 / $1100 = 1.36 * 100 = 136%.

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YOWSERS!

136% ROI!

LOL!

I can see why when you thought my numbers were real, you were quite skeptical... /images/graemlins/smile.gif

So basically say that I start with $1100 bankroll.

I play some SNGs and I have $2600 - $1100 bankroll is $1500 return.

So you divide the 1500/1100 (bankroll) and then times it by 100 for the ROI percentage, correct?

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man, i think youre stil confused.

from the FAQ:



ROI: Return on Investment – the average return a player earns on an investment of $1. (Total Prizes Won-Total Buyins paid)/(Total Buyins paid) Note: Total buyins includes the rake paid to the card room.


notice how this has nothing to do with your bankroll; it only includes total amount youve invested in sngs...

edit: didnt read tiger's post. guess he had me covered.

Exitonly
11-05-2005, 08:43 PM
(Total Winnings)/(Total Spent) - 1

Or

(Total Winnings - Total Spent)/(Total Spent)

aka

Profit/Spent

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