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veganmav

11-05-2005, 04:24 AM

SB is VPIP 45 PFR 16 total Agg 1.1

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em 7 handed

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, MP1 calls, Hero caps, SB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: (7.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, Hero calls.

River: (15.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero..?

goofball

11-05-2005, 04:30 AM

Absolutely not. Did you not think about his numbers when considering this? IMO it's close between calling and 3betting if you get checkraised.

veganmav

11-05-2005, 04:33 AM

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Absolutely not. Did you not think about his numbers when considering this? IMO it's close between calling and 3betting if you get checkraised.

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I mean he did cap the turn, and his postflop aggro isn't THAT high. And yes I looked at his numbers. But he capped the turn and checked the river, that really threw me off.

Pepsquad

11-05-2005, 04:48 AM

I'd bet/call. I do not see him going for yet another check/raise on the river after check-raise/capping the turn. The J /images/graemlins/spade.gif scared him. And you crush the str8 and flush draws that scare him.

goofball

11-05-2005, 05:33 AM

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Absolutely not. Did you not think about his numbers when considering this? IMO it's close between calling and 3betting if you get checkraised.

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I mean he did cap the turn, and his postflop aggro isn't THAT high. And yes I looked at his numbers. But he capped the turn and checked the river, that really threw me off.

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Remember to consider that on a sliding scale. 45/11/1.3 is way way more aggro than 15/11/1.3

WillyTrailer

11-05-2005, 07:42 AM

BET!!! and then think about three-betting if you get check-raised!

-WT

veganmav

11-05-2005, 08:45 AM

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Absolutely not. Did you not think about his numbers when considering this? IMO it's close between calling and 3betting if you get checkraised.

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I mean he did cap the turn, and his postflop aggro isn't THAT high. And yes I looked at his numbers. But he capped the turn and checked the river, that really threw me off.

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Remember to consider that on a sliding scale. 45/11/1.3 is way way more aggro than 15/11/1.3

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yeah I know.
I took that into account on the river..
Anyway, I bet, and then he check-raised.
I honestly think a 3-bet here is spewing. Who can argue for a 3-bet?!

marsvolta619

11-05-2005, 12:19 PM

Obviously he value capped KTs on the flop. I would bet the river and call his checkraise

veganmav

11-05-2005, 02:00 PM

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Obviously he value capped KTs on the flop. I would bet the river and call his checkraise

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wtf r u talking about.
thanks 4 the insightful input

11-05-2005, 02:36 PM

BET! Let AK raise it, Then 3-bet it!!

seriously, I think you should bet the river here, you basically have the [censored] nuts

Well_TiMeD

11-05-2005, 03:16 PM

I think 3 betting the river is horrible advice.. What do you beat? Keep in mind the preflop action. AK doesn't play the river like this most the time. Even he has AK so many combinations beat you that a 3 bet is very very bad IMO and will likely cost you two extra bets. Yeah hes agressive- but your hand is pretty clear to him here I think. (The fact you have some kind of boat)

veganmav

11-06-2005, 12:44 AM

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BET! Let AK raise it, Then 3-bet it!!

seriously, I think you should bet the river here, you basically have the [censored] nuts

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So he couldn't have
AQ
AJ
AA
Are they unlikely? he 3-bet preflop and capped the turn

gol4pro

11-06-2005, 07:20 AM

I realize hes a big time donk... but even donks have some concept of the fact thay ou have a hand.

After he CR's the river, he's not messing around. Call.

veganmav

11-06-2005, 10:27 AM

anyway.he.checkraised.the.river.and.showed.pocket. aces.i.proceeded.to.puke.all.over.my.laptop.and.no w.my.shift.key.and.space.bar.doesn't.work.sad.face

veganmav

11-06-2005, 11:15 AM

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anyway.he.checkraised.the.river.and.showed.pocket. aces.i.proceeded.to.puke.all.over.my.laptop.and.no w.my.shift.key.and.space.bar.doesn't.work.sad.face

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oh.yeah.i.forgot....my.enter.key.doesn't.work.eith er