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JerBear77
11-04-2005, 10:22 PM
Hand #1

Blinds 250/500
Ante 100

Hero: 5200 K
Rest of table is greater than me, ranging from 6500 to 13000


8 people at table

Dealt K /images/graemlins/spade.gifT /images/graemlins/diamond.gif EP


(Blinds will be increasing in 1 min)

Push here??
If not, what do you need to push?



Hand #2


500/1000 Blinds

Hero: 9000
Villian: 4200

K /images/graemlins/diamond.gifJ /images/graemlins/spade.gif



Villian in BB
Hero in MP


Hero limps, everyone folds to BB


Flop: 7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif4 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif2 /images/graemlins/club.gif

Villian goes all in giving hero roughly 2 to 1 pot odds.
Call here?
Bigdaddydvo
11-04-2005, 10:25 PM
Looks like two folds to me.
11-04-2005, 10:26 PM
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Hand #1

Blinds 250/500
Ante 100

Hero: 5200 K
Rest of table is greater than me, ranging from 6500 to 13000


8 people at table

Dealt K /images/graemlins/spade.gifT /images/graemlins/diamond.gif EP


(Blinds will be increasing in 1 min)

Push here??
If not, what do you need to push?



Hand #2


500/1000 Blinds

Hero: 9000
Villian: 4200

K /images/graemlins/diamond.gifJ /images/graemlins/spade.gif



Villian in BB
Hero in MP


Hero limps, everyone folds to BB


Flop: 7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif4 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif2 /images/graemlins/club.gif

Villian goes all in giving hero roughly 2 to 1 pot odds.
Call here?

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First one is a good play, your M is around 3 depending on how many people at the table, and you have good vigorish. Second one not so good, if villain is BB he could have easily hit that flop.
Exitonly
11-04-2005, 10:27 PM
Hand 1 i fold, a rough guess of what i'd push w/ here... 77+, AJo+, KQs

hand 2: i push here PF. And no, if i somehow got to the flop, i fold to his bet there. I think.
nath
11-04-2005, 11:39 PM
I push both preflop in almost all likelihood. I definitely do NOT limp hand 2.
ilya
11-05-2005, 12:11 AM
IMO both are pretty easy PF shoves. In han 1 I shove probably top 75-80%.
AtticusFinch
11-05-2005, 12:33 AM
Hand 1: Fold. I'd think about shoving this late, but not early. This can be table-dependent, though. If EP pushes are given excessive respect at your table (sometimes the case at Stars), you might decide to shove it anyway.

Hand 2: Push pf. Given the limp, fold. He hit that flop, or has a small pair.
ilya
11-05-2005, 12:40 AM
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Hand 1: Fold. I'd think about shoving this late, but not early. This can be table-dependent, though. If EP pushes are given excessive respect at your table (sometimes the case at Stars), you might decide to shove it anyway.


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The guy only has 3xpot & you want him to muck a strong King?!
Exitonly
11-05-2005, 12:40 AM
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In han 1 I shove probably top 75-80%.


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I did a little math when i saw people disagree about hand 1..
KTo should be like + 1-ish BB on average..

i can't imagine that the bottom part of that 75% range you'd be pushing would not be +cEV. My guess is that ~40% would be good to push here. Maybe i'll do more math later, but probably not, because i'm lazy/