KK on turn, horrible fold?

[Redeye]

SB is about a 23/20ish player in this hand, seems reasonable.

Was this a horrible fold?


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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16 SB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, Hero folds

[spydog]

That is an ugly fold. Just call it down. If it's 2 bets to you on the river then you can fold.

[jba]

you're getting 16 or 17-2 on a call down... I'm pretty sure I'd call down, but I'm a Fish.

[obsidian]

Yes it was as AQ and KQ are both possible holdings you beat and the pot is big.

[krishanleong]

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That is an ugly fold. Just call it down. If it's 2 bets to you on the river then you can fold.

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It's not even close. Call down.

Krishan

[ZBTHorton]

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That is an ugly fold. Just call it down. If it's 2 bets to you on the river then you can fold.

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It's not even close. Call down.

Krishan

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If he had QQ, i suspect you would have seen a reraise on the flop from him.

I'd be more worried about 9-10, but I still call down here.

[donger]

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SB is about a 23/20ish player in this hand, seems reasonable.

Was this a horrible fold?


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Yes

Absolutely horrible.

[Redeye]

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It's not even close. Call down.


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Yes. And I knew it right when I did it and before I posted it. Running a little bad and I think I'm trying to make some laydowns that I have no right to be making. I think maybe thats one of the first mistakes when things aren't going well. I find myself folding way to many rivers and trying to make tough laydowns when I shouldn't be, especially in a large pot.

I had convinced myself that since he 3-bet out of the SB, since I capped from UTG, it wasn't likely he was waiting until the turn to c/r w/ AQ. Also, I thought there little chance he held KQ because I ddidn't think he's 3betting KQ OOP against a UTG pf raiser. So I figured it was between AA,KK,QQ or JJ and since there was only 1 other KK I decided I should fold, and as you said, it was terrible. Even if I knew with 100% certainty that was his hand range here, I'm still not far off breaking even on a call down.

Anyways, FWIW villian has KK. I think I just needed the therapy of posting a really dumb play.

[jph0424]

I really hate this fold. Folding overpairs against aggro opponents in big pots = bad.

[RunDownHouse]

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I think you need to see your doctor and pick up a script for this (http://www.hetracil.com/index.html). Then you can put your skirt away.

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[BottlesOf]

I don't think it's horrible, but it's not good. It's not a fold you shold be looking to make. He could have AQ, QJ, clubs or whatever. I think it's a pretty easy call down.

[Chobohoya]

Where's aggroHUSHposter when you need him??

[Schizo]

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I don't think it's horrible....

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????

WTF

Only against the most passive people on the planet, or the rockiest cold callers, could I make this laydown.

Please explain why it's not horrible.