AQs, 4-way action

I've been lurking for a while, fellas. Here's my first post.

This is a 10-handed 2/5 live game. I'm UTG with a $300 stack. The table must either think I'm a serious LAG or have been running hot, as I've been raising a lot preflop and have won three pots in the last orbit with no showdown after the flop or the turn.

READS

MP1 is very weak/tight. $200 stack. I won a fair amount off him the day before, and I'd say he's generally playing scared against he.

MP2 is tight also but pretty damn smart. He's capable of making big folds. He doesn't bluff often and never bluffs big. He has $500. I've bluffed him off a hand recently, which pissed him off and is on his mind. He's wondering whether I'm running hot or raising light or what.

SB is super aggressive LAG. He's clearly a better player than I am when he's at the top of his game, but he just busted out of a tournament and seems like he might be on tilt. Or maybe he's just pretending to tilt. He just lost an extra $100 to MP2 when he missed his flush draw but tried to represent a straight on the river. He's got $200.

ACTION

So I'm UTG. I look down and see..

A /images/graemlins/club.gif Q /images/graemlins/club.gif

I make it twenty. MP1 and MP2 call. SB makes it $60. I consider pushing but realize M1 or MP2 could easily have AK, so I just call. MP1 and MP2 call. Four players see ...

T /images/graemlins/heart.gif 7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

There's $240 in the pot. The SB checks to me. What should I do?

RESULTS IN WHITE BELOW

<font color="white"> I push. MP1 folds. MP2 folds. SB calls with TT and busts me. </font>

[hit_the_set]

Huh?

No matter what your reads are or what other players think of you, you have got to believe that your AQ is probably not good in a 4-way pot. Thats a bad push, IMO.

Yeah. This morning I've been thinking that $100 would have been just as likely as the full $240 to fold 22-99, AJ and maybe AK. My big mistake was seeing this flop as a low rag flop and not respecting the T.

[AceHiStation]

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Thats a bad push

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I *never* make this push 4-handed. Heads up, make a 3/4 pot bet maybe, but 4-handed odds of AQo not getting called aren't too pretty.

[captZEEbo1]

when SB makes it 60 now is your time to fold (or push if he has a tendency to do this with total crap).

[ggbman]

When you whiff on this flop with that preflop action, you should be done with this hand.

[psuasskicker]

I think the only way you can lose money faster than pushing in on that flop is heading to the bathroom and flushing it directly down the toilet.

And I agree with the person that said you should have folded PF to the reraise. AQ, suited or not, stands up horribly to that sort of action. Frankly, I don't raise with it UTG to start with, but to each their own there.

- C -

[Rococo]

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I think the only way you can lose money faster than pushing in on that flop is heading to the bathroom and flushing it directly down the toilet.

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Winner winner chicken dinner.

[anduril]

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This is a 10-handed 2/5 live game. I'm UTG with a $300 stack. The table must either think I'm a serious LAG or have been running hot, as I've been raising a lot preflop and have won three pots in the last orbit with no showdown after the flop or the turn.

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so shouldn't you have more like $600 if not more in front of you? What's the max buy-in there? Oh and your push is the worst thing I've ever seen.

[Big_Jim]

Wrong Forum (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/postlist.php?Cat=&amp;Board=ssplnlpoker)

Why would you push here?

Why would you push here?

Why why why would you push here?

At the time, my thinking was that the SB's check indicated weakness. He fooled me. I was fairly sure both the MPs would fold, as they would have raised my preflop bet with JJ-AA and would give me credit for an overpair here.

It was indeed an awful move. Like I said, if I really wanted to try and take down this pot, $100 would have done the trick. Then I get called or raised by the SB and shut down.

[psuasskicker]

$100 would have done the trick. Then I get called or raised by the SB and shut down.

Yup. Much better to flush $100 down the drain than $240.

Still, I prefer not flushing anything down the drain and simply check-folding to any bet.

- C -

[jaral]

thats terrible. and why are the stacks so low?
oh, and thats terrible.

[AceHiStation]

Welcome to the forums... everyone rough on your first post, cause it sucked /images/graemlins/tongue.gif... but so do everyones first couple.

[mgsimpleton]

i'm gonna go out on a limb and assume this post is a joke. so my response is... lol.

what's especially ironic to me is that the flop is rainbow with no clubs, so he's actually drawing just about stone cold dead.

[TheWorstPlayer]

Turn K, River J and he laughs all the way to the bank. Nice hand.

[Officer Farva]

Looks like all the big guns have spoken, so now I can chime in.

Nice push dummy dumb dumb. If you make it to 100 posts I'll post my gf naked as an avator.

And shes fat!

Okay, just one more question. Is it +EV to drive fish like me off this board and away from the game?

[psuasskicker]

Tough love man. You expect people in a mid-high stakes forum to hold your hand and cry for you every time you make a horrible play?

What about this play seemed right to you? Why would you think betting on that flop is ever in a million years a good idea? You played the hand really badly, there's not a lot of ways to sugar-coat that...

- C -

Understood.

[captZEEbo1]

The reason you played this hand so bad is b/c you saw a flop. Let me reiterate to people that don't realize this. You are grossly violating the 5/10 rule...you are putting 20% of your stack in preflop trying to hit a flop that no matter what you will not like (barring nut boat). You know why? Because no mater what card you hit the reraiser can easily has you dominated Q hi he can easily have AA or KK, A hi he can easily have AK.

[lapoker17]

standard.

[creedofhubris]

If you get into the habit of always folding AQ into a reraise you won't go far wrong.