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bawcerelli
11-04-2005, 03:45 AM
you guys limp this? is my fold too tight?

i usually fold this in ep because a risk of a raise. as it turned out, someone had AA but chose to limp.


Seat 1: gentleman55 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: KingRat (1420 in chips)
Seat 3: BubbaKGB (3640 in chips)
Seat 5: LeftLV (1365 in chips)
Seat 6: steve q (1400 in chips)
Seat 7: pillows5 (1465 in chips)
Seat 8: Poket Genies (1450 in chips)
Seat 9: JTF10 (1260 in chips)
Poket Genies: posts small blind 15
JTF10: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gentleman55 [Ac Tc]
gentleman55: folds
KingRat: calls 30
BubbaKGB: folds
LeftLV: folds
steve q: folds
pillows5: folds
Poket Genies: folds
JTF10: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c 8h 7c]
KingRat said, "flop was scary"
JTF10: bets 330
KingRat: raises 330 to 660
JTF10: raises 330 to 990
KingRat: raises 400 to 1390 and is all-in
JTF10: calls 240 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [9c 8h 7c] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [9c 8h 7c 5c] [Kd]
BubbaKGB said, "he either had low pockets or was slowbetting his AK"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JTF10: shows [Ah Ad] (a pair of Aces)
KingRat: shows [Td 9d] (a pair of Nines)
JTF10 collected 2535 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2535 | Rake 0
Board [9c 8h 7c 5c Kd]
Seat 1: gentleman55 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: KingRat showed [Td 9d] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 3: BubbaKGB folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: LeftLV folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: steve q folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: pillows5 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Poket Genies (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: JTF10 (big blind) showed [Ah Ad] and won (2535) with a pair of Aces

11-04-2005, 04:06 AM
Easiest fold I ever make.
Also, by showing us the outcome you make us result oriented as well.

bawcerelli
11-04-2005, 04:28 AM
do you limp this in mp or lp? i like to limp ATs - AQs ( in early levels - in late levels i'm pushing) to hit either the nut flush or nut straight draw (or a combo of both).

HesseJam
11-04-2005, 05:24 AM
Early rounds:

ATs: I fold in EP, might limp in MP if I think the table is more on the pf-passive side or might steal. LP, I mostly put in a standard raise and tend to fold on a standard re-raise pf.

AJs: I start stealing earlier (late MP).

AQs: I hate limping AQs at most levels. AQ is a value raise hand for me. First in I put in a standard 3-5 BB raise. After 1-2 limpers, I tend to play the same. I understand that the forum here is split on this issue. I occasionally limp with AQs at late levels if the situation is right to trigger all-ins.

tigerite
11-04-2005, 05:55 AM
Fold and stop being results oriented!

11-04-2005, 09:30 AM
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do you limp this in mp or lp? i like to limp ATs - AQs ( in early levels - in late levels i'm pushing) to hit either the nut flush or nut straight draw (or a combo of both).

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With a deep enough stack, I'll limp this from later positions sometimes, but I fold it a good bit, too. You need some money in the pot and a passive table to make it worth it, IMO. It's a good fold here.

Also, I doubt your guy limps his AA with two limpers in front of him, so you'd most likely end up folding this to his pre-flop raise, anyway. Then again, he was willing to make multiple raises on a flop where he ought to only be seeing JT (and so was his idiot opponent).

durron597
11-04-2005, 10:02 AM
FWIW if the table is playing passively I limp this. I wouldn't in level 2 on party though.

11-04-2005, 12:19 PM
I fold this so fast.

Results oriented is bad also.

durron597
11-04-2005, 12:22 PM
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FWIW if the table is playing passively I limp this. I wouldn't in level 2 on party though.

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By the way, I fold ATo, and call A9s too. Again, only on passive tables on stars.

tigerite
11-04-2005, 12:25 PM
Yes but we all know you're a LAG at heart /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

pooh74
11-04-2005, 12:29 PM
Good fold...I would limp ATs from mp and fold ATo unless in CO+1 or better. A9s I would fold EP everytime...I'd rather play 9Ts from there.

Cactus Jack
11-04-2005, 12:38 PM
Limp, fold to the raise, and don't look at the board.

You can afford to limp once or twice in early rounds on PS.

housenuts
11-04-2005, 02:03 PM
this is a stars turbo. i limp here. what is 20 chips out of 1500 as opposed to a party sng where you only start with 800 chips

durron597
11-04-2005, 02:34 PM
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this is a stars turbo. i limp here. what is 20 chips out of 1500 as opposed to a party sng where you only start with 800 chips

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It's actually 30, but yeah.

housenuts
11-04-2005, 05:26 PM
ah i didn't really read it carefully. just assumed it was the first level. anyways i still limp, fold to a raise (except min-raise and will think about it if he makes it T90)

durron597
11-04-2005, 05:37 PM
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ah i didn't really read it carefully. just assumed it was the first level. anyways i still limp, fold to a raise (except min-raise and will think about it if he makes it T90)

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If he makes it 90 then I think about how multiway the pot will be, 4 players I call.

pooh74
11-04-2005, 05:42 PM
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ah i didn't really read it carefully. just assumed it was the first level. anyways i still limp, fold to a raise (except min-raise and will think about it if he makes it T90)

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4 players I call.

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yeah, 60 more with 3 besides me is fine.