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11-04-2005, 12:31 AM
I flopped a set, then caught the quad on the turn.

I know it was a little risky to slowplay the flop with two playing zone cards touching, but there had been zero aggression to me last to act...

I'm particularly interested in my play on the river. The river card put three to Broadway and a three flush on the board, and it was obvious everyone else was on somekinda draw. I debated between raising and just calling to see if I could get both the opponents acting behind me to overcall...thoughts?

Party Poker 2.00/4.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link (http://www.darksun.lunarpages.com/poker/)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds.

River: (9.75 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...???

lighterjobs
11-04-2005, 12:46 AM
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River: (9.75 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...??? </font>

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raises...???

livinitup0
11-04-2005, 01:15 AM
It would be very hard to be that sure that he would reraise enough times to make this profitable. You'd probably need a lot of stats on him to pull that off.

pauliewalnuts
11-04-2005, 01:18 AM
You gotta raise. Youre probably up against a BD flush and two-pair/broadway. Dont go for overcalls with the nuts. Any of those hands I mentioned are most likely gonna call any number of bets. Give them a chance,

billymonk
11-04-2005, 03:08 AM
Raise the flop. After that, just bet/raise/re-raise/cap depending on what the action is to you. That means raise the river.

flopmonster
11-04-2005, 03:10 AM
RAISE THE FLOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i Reraise the river

MyTurn2Raise
11-04-2005, 03:25 AM
nope...fold on river

clownshoes
11-04-2005, 03:28 AM
http://web.mit.edu/cates/www/pics/retard-rose-xmas-1998.1.jpg

ErrantNight
11-04-2005, 10:45 AM
if this is your third post absolutely your biggest leaks having nothing to do with extracting max value from ANY big made hand. particularly quads.

dopp16
11-04-2005, 11:31 AM
Am I the only one that thinks by calling the river raise he is going to get as many if not more bets than if he reraises?

pudley4
11-04-2005, 02:40 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks by calling the river raise he is going to get as many if not more bets than if he reraises?

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No.

But that doesn't mean you're right either.

11-04-2005, 02:47 PM
LOL noted and there'll be plenty more coming thx...

11-04-2005, 02:54 PM
if he flat calls he will get a caller but at most two

if he raises he will get a caller (from UTG+2) maybe one of the others will tag along and/or he'll cap it. He might get stuck but I think there's a good enough chance he'll get more to make reraising the best play.

11-04-2005, 03:10 PM
1. definitely raise this flop in a 6-way pot... but you know that.

2. coldcall the river, and it isn't close. on your good days, the BB will three bet with a str8 or flush, and you can cap. a river raise just tells the two EP players to fold their non-flush hands.