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JimmyJazz1
11-03-2005, 03:40 PM
Villian is a 63/4/1.2 lunatic. He lost a few close hands recently and has been agressive at very strange times. For example he went into a betting war with ace high, eventually calling a river cap and lost to a boat. With those reads is it possible to lay this down anywhere?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8 BB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB
kapw7
11-03-2005, 04:33 PM
I agree with calling down.
I prefer to put the 1 extra SB preflop rather than on the flop (where it is nearly 100% sure you are going to get 3-bet and so you'll actually pay 2 extra SB with a weak hand)
marsvolta619
11-03-2005, 04:35 PM
call me weak but i think you gotta lay this down somewhere. even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. This is a great villain to have but pick your battles
w_alloy
11-03-2005, 04:44 PM
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call me weak but i think you gotta lay this down somewhere. even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. This is a great villain to have but pick your battles

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I strongly disagree. I would probably cap preflop but its fine that you didnt. In these situations any paired board is a great flop, your raise is good. After this, the pot gets so big you need to call down. He could still easily have Ax or some random hand.
JimmyJazz1
11-03-2005, 07:13 PM
How far are you taking a hand like A9 against this type of opponent?
imported_stealthcow
11-03-2005, 08:51 PM
its ugly, but its fine.

i have some other thoughts about hands like these, but i'd rather talk to you online about them as they're better to discuss then state

stealthcow-
gildwulf
11-03-2005, 08:58 PM
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call me weak but i think you gotta lay this down somewhere. even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. This is a great villain to have but pick your battles

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I strongly disagree. I would probably cap preflop but its fine that you didnt. In these situations any paired board is a great flop, your raise is good. After this, the pot gets so big you need to call down. He could still easily have Ax or some random hand.

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In priciple I agree a call-down is good against this type of opponent, but this is the worst possible river and I would fold here on the river. If he is semi-bluffing he literally makes every draw combination I can think of right now. The only thing you beat here is ace-high or a stone-cold bluff. I don't think you are good here 1/10.

On a sidenote, just cause it's a relatively large pot doesn't mean you "need to call".