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11-03-2005, 12:57 PM
Stars $20 NL SNG

Fairly early, stacks relatively equal. 15/30 blinds
UTG raise to 90, 3 callers, I call on the button with QcJd

I know this is very loose, but I figure if I can catch a flop here I can take down a big pot risking less than 10% of my stack.

Flop is TJQ with 2 spades. UTG raiser bets 350, MP goes all in, next in line calls. So we now have a huge pot with UTG likely to also call.

I know I'm up against AK and some type of flush draw, and against one opponent it's an easy fold, but what about here?

I have 6 outs to the boat which is very likely to win the whole pot. It seems like I don't have the odds to call, but what about the implied odds of having a huge stack with 6 players left.

I ended up calling and busting out, but I think it was the wrong decision.

Comments appreciated.
citanul
11-03-2005, 01:01 PM
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I know I'm up against AK and some type of flush draw, and against one opponent it's an easy fold, but what about here?

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then well, this is a really, really easy fold.

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I have 6 outs to the boat which is very likely to win the whole pot. It seems like I don't have the odds to call, but what about the implied odds of having a huge stack with 6 players left.

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they'd have to be pretty impressive odds, wouldn't they, to justify busting out at this point 75% of the time or whatever, wouldn't they?

c
tigerite
11-03-2005, 01:05 PM
Stop calling with QJo, simple.
ChrisCo
11-03-2005, 01:19 PM
You have 4 outs, not 6 if they have your 2 pair beat.
11-03-2005, 01:20 PM
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I know I'm up against AK and some type of flush draw, and against one opponent it's an easy fold, but what about here?

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then well, this is a really, really easy fold.

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I have 6 outs to the boat which is very likely to win the whole pot. It seems like I don't have the odds to call, but what about the implied odds of having a huge stack with 6 players left.

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they'd have to be pretty impressive odds, wouldn't they, to justify busting out at this point 75% of the time or whatever, wouldn't they?

c

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It's at least 82-83% of the time, and I think probably closer to 90%, according to poker stove and some basic hand range assumptions.
11-03-2005, 01:22 PM
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You have no more than 4 outs, not 6, since they have your 2 pair beat.

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DDH
11-03-2005, 01:35 PM
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Stop calling with QJo, simple.

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11-03-2005, 01:36 PM
TWO outs. Yes /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Thanks for the replies. It was an EASY fold.