What Exactly Is Considered An Ace Rag? [Archive]

gambledrum

11-03-2005, 12:00 PM

Is there a general concensus at Two Plus Two for exactly what is considered an ace rag?
In SSH Ed Miller says:
"We also sometimes use the term 'ace rag.' That denotes any hand that contains an ace and a small, unspecified side card, such as a trey or a six."
The book also gives a general recommendation not to play most offsuited aces (A9-A2).
Would A9, A8, or A7 be considered ace rags? I consider them to be, and also generally don't play them. Do the pros call these hands "rags?"

ReadyEddie

11-03-2005, 12:03 PM

i think "rags" refer to like 7 and under. 8-9 are just like in the middle. I dont think there are guidelines carved anywhere.

11-03-2005, 12:57 PM

I raise with A8, and fold A9. Weird?

krimson

11-03-2005, 01:01 PM

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I raise with A8, and fold A9. Weird?

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Yes, please explain.

11-03-2005, 01:03 PM

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I raise with A8, and fold A9. Weird?

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Yes, please explain.

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Actually it was a complete lie, sorry.

krimson

11-03-2005, 01:08 PM

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Would A9, A8, or A7 be considered ace rags? I consider them to be, and also generally don't play them. Do the pros call these hands "rags?"

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A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

@bsolute_luck

11-03-2005, 01:34 PM

depends on position, # of players in the hand, and the people/blinds after you.

sometimes they're rags, sometimes they're riches. generally speaking i just hate offsuit A6 and down. suited A6 and down are like dirty cloths- a step up from rags.

11-03-2005, 01:40 PM

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sometimes they're rags, sometimes they're riches.

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That was lame.

@bsolute_luck

11-03-2005, 01:47 PM

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sometimes they're rags, sometimes they're riches.

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That was lame.

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Actually it was a complete lie, sorry

[/ QUOTE ] so is this. touche.

11-03-2005, 01:51 PM

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sometimes they're rags, sometimes they're riches.

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That was lame.

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Actually it was a complete lie, sorry

[/ QUOTE ] so is this. touche.

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Ah. touche.

soko

11-03-2005, 02:42 PM

T9o is a rag hand so I don't see why A9 is not an ace rag

@bsolute_luck

11-03-2005, 03:14 PM

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T9o is a rag hand so I don't see why A9 is not an ace rag

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wha? is this a joke. i don't get it. they're completely different? and FWIW- i like 'em both /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

W. Deranged

11-03-2005, 03:20 PM

In my opinion, A8 and A9 absorb slightly better than most rags do.

So I call A8 "A-mop" and A9 "A-Spongemop," because A9 is like one of those slightly better, yellow-spongy-type mops that really do a number of messes on tiled floors.

krimson

11-03-2005, 03:23 PM

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T9o is a rag hand so I don't see why A9 is not an ace rag

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That's some quality reasoning.
Corollary based on assumption: if Q3 is a rag, then AQ is an ace rag. ==><==

shant

11-03-2005, 03:26 PM

This thread reminds me of an Aesop Rock song I like.

@bsolute_luck

11-03-2005, 03:33 PM

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This thread reminds me of an Aesop Rock song I like.

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since you've introduced some NC to this post, i'm gonna ask:

1. what is your avatar?
2. what is it saying? it's been driving me nuts because i keep trying to read lips.

tonypaladino

11-03-2005, 03:36 PM

Bloody Ace

shant

11-03-2005, 03:49 PM

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This thread reminds me of an Aesop Rock song I like.

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since you've introduced some NC to this post, i'm gonna ask:

1. what is your avatar?
2. what is it saying? it's been driving me nuts because i keep trying to read lips.

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It's the dude from Menace 2 Society saying "You actin like a little bitch right now."

soko

11-03-2005, 03:56 PM

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T9o is a rag hand so I don't see why A9 is not an ace rag

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That's some quality reasoning.
Corollary based on assumption: if Q3 is a rag, then AQ is an ace rag. ==><==

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Incorrect. In T9 the 9 is the rag in the hand because T is a broadway, not a rag. A3 is a rag, AQ, are you stupid?

Whatever, I dont like you.

W. Deranged

11-03-2005, 04:04 PM

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Whatever, I dont like you.

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If only all forum arguments were so charmingly straightforward...

11-03-2005, 04:09 PM

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T9o is a rag hand so I don't see why A9 is not an ace rag

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That's some quality reasoning.
Corollary based on assumption: if Q3 is a rag, then AQ is an ace rag. ==><==

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Incorrect. In T9 the 9 is the rag in the hand because T is a broadway, not a rag. A3 is a rag, AQ, are you stupid?

Whatever, I dont like you.

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Lol.

BigBrother

11-03-2005, 04:30 PM

Sigh, that was 2 minutes of my life I will never get back.

brettbrettr

11-03-2005, 04:34 PM

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It's the dude from Menace 2 Society saying "You actin like a little bitch right now."

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This is the only useful piece of information in this whole thread. That is all.

Brett

@bsolute_luck

11-03-2005, 04:43 PM

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It's the dude from Menace 2 Society saying "You actin like a little bitch right now."

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sweet. i wasn't too far off. got the "bitch right now" part. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

MyTurn2Raise

11-03-2005, 04:57 PM

I call A7-A2 the Camry, because I bought my car off people playing those hands to the river only to say good kicker to me.