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11-02-2005, 11:21 AM
Villain has been raising alot abusing the bubble. He feels loose and I dont feel I have that much FE really. So, can I fold this beautiful hand?


***** Hand History for Game 2968625391 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:17073770 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Wednesday, November 02, 10:14:44 EDT 2005
Table Table 66794 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: joez63 ( $1648 )
Seat 5: joan6421 ( $1175 )
Seat 9: zclub ( $3042 )
Seat 10: hero( $2135 )
Trny:17073770 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero[ Ac Qc ]
joan6421 folds.
zclub raises [800].
hero...

kitaristi0
11-02-2005, 11:27 AM
If you don't think you have much FE, then I guess you could treat this like he just pushed straight away, instead of just raising 800.

You say he's been loose, so if we put his range as 22+,A2+,K2+,Q2s+,Q6o+,J7s+,J9o+,T8s+,98s according to SNG PT you should call with JJ+ (2%).

However, I don't know how much the little added FE you gain from going OTT affects your pushing range.

chisness
11-02-2005, 11:33 AM
i'd push here -- i think players like this will fold here quite a bit because the difference between having 2200 and 1000 at this level is very significant.

bennies
11-02-2005, 11:36 AM
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If you don't think you have much FE, then I guess you could treat this like he just pushed straight away, instead of just raising 800.

You say he's been loose, so if we put his range as 22+,A2+,K2+,Q2s+,Q6o+,J7s+,J9o+,T8s+,98s according to SNG PT you should call with JJ+ (2%).

However, I don't know how much the little added FE you gain from going OTT affects your pushing range.

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Good work, this has the looks of what could be a nice short precise thread. I think the minuscule FE makes this a very close decision.

In these spots I try to look for external signs to guide me. Say for instance, that I need, like now, to hit the john, then I push.

durron597
11-02-2005, 11:39 AM
A stop-and-go isn't too bad here. If you think you have zero preflop FE, then you really need a pair to push here.

Do you think he will call your stop and go with any flopped pair? In other words if he has 76 and the flop is K72 do you think he will call a flop push?

chisness
11-02-2005, 11:42 AM
i'd say he definitely would call that and almost anything with a pair unless it's really bad like AK8 and he has 89.

11-02-2005, 12:37 PM
lol I like this, I'll start using the strategy in situations like this.

If youre interested he called me with QTo and beat me (I was intending on posting this whether I decided to push or not).

Rduke55
11-02-2005, 12:49 PM
What about a s-n-g if you don't have FE?

Edited to say I'm late on this.