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xGoreDudex
11-02-2005, 12:13 AM
I've been off to a decent start, but I'm wondering if anyone can comment on a few of these push/folds.

First hand, I have a decent hand villian that raises to 100 is pretty loose, I figure this push has equity as I'm quite sure the other limpers will fold as well as the villian as he has shown strength before and then when played back at, has backed off. I assume this is standard with JJ

***** Hand History for Game 2966629493 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17063633 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Tuesday, November 01, 22:29:35 EDT 2005
Table Table 67751 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 3: akurasz ( $530 )
Seat 4: JPPrewitt ( $730 )
Seat 8: bigntalltex ( $770 )
Seat 2: loose23 ( $445 )
Seat 6: fournines41 ( $1160 )
Seat 5: Higdog ( $1650 )
Seat 7: DonkdHound_ ( $825 )
Seat 10: stephenmacfa ( $875 )
Seat 9: yesssir ( $1015 )
Trny:17063633 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to DonkdHound_ [ Jc Js ]
bigntalltex folds.
yesssir folds.
stephenmacfa folds.
loose23 calls [30].
akurasz calls [30].
JPPrewitt folds.
Higdog folds.
fournines41 raises [85].
DonkdHound_ is all-In.
loose23 folds.
akurasz folds.
fournines41 folds.
DonkdHound_ does not show cards.
DonkdHound_ wins 985 chips


This next hand is from the bubble. I have AKo and villian who raises all-in is very tight. I'm still trying to find balance when I want a coin-flip if he has a made hand but I don't want to let AQ AJ get away with this, if he was loose I definatley believe calling the all-in which had me covered by about 400 on the bubble would have been correct.

***** Hand History for Game 2966783877 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17063633 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Tuesday, November 01, 22:54:02 EDT 2005
Table Table 67751 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: akurasz ( $1450 )
Seat 4: JPPrewitt ( $2155 )
Seat 5: Higdog ( $2155 )
Seat 7: DonkdHound_ ( $2240 )
Trny:17063633 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to DonkdHound_ [ As Kd ]
JPPrewitt is all-In.
Higdog folds.
DonkdHound_ folds.
akurasz folds.
JPPrewitt does not show cards.
JPPrewitt wins 2605 chips

My feeling here is to try to coast into the money, although at what point is fold just plain crappy and bad that I folded this on the bubble, when in so calling would have had me in a coin-flip with a tight player.

Sorry if these are straight forward, just looking for positive reinforcment that I'm making correct plays and not just getting lucky. Also, AKo is a monster hand, but it's better for pushing all-in then calling all-in with, especially on the bubble from what my basic understanding is. I hope my theory is correct and that these plays were ok.

pokerlaw
11-02-2005, 12:19 AM
first hand - if you got villain as loose, seems ok.

2nd hand - this one I don't know if I agree with. What is your read on the pusher here? was he shoving a lot? The stack sizes in this hand are not such that there is a teeny tiny stack around. against most players I call that, b/c i run into a lot of weaker aces.

11-02-2005, 12:20 AM
Hand 1: I have no idea what to do in these situations either, whether to just call, pop it to 300-350, or to just push.

Hand 2: Autopush. Four-handed, AK is a monster. You're only scared of AA and KK, and you would have to put Villan's range on pretty much Broadway pairs only (AA-1010) for this call to be unprofitable.

Freudian
11-02-2005, 12:36 AM
Hand 1. I often push these, ~200 chips in the middle is enough for me to do it and I am not scared of a 85 bet with two limpers. If he had a real hand he would most likely bet more.

Hand 2. Call. AK is way ahead of his pushing range here.

bawcerelli
11-02-2005, 01:14 AM
the first hand there's a couple of different ways to play it, and pushing is one of them. this one develops with experience i think.

second hand is an insta repush IMO.

11-02-2005, 01:39 AM
I agree with everyone else. Hand one is fine, although calling and raising less are both reasonable options. I think pushing here is probably best in most spots because playing JJ postflop against opponents with wide ranges is often tough. Hand 2 is definitely a call. If you had 1k and there was a shorty with 100, then this fold would make a lot more sense. Here, you're way ahead of any even slightly reasonable pushing range and there are no weird stack size considerations to think about.