Let the a-hole get stomped?

[Rev. Good Will]

I was at the Misfit's yearly Halloween show, it was pretty sick, I always enjoy seeing them live.

Anyways, during the first band, there was this guy, ~6'3", 200 or so pounds. Long thick hair, metal head type you would expect to see at a Gwar or Nile show.

The first band is playing, Rock City Morgue, they sound pretty tame in comparison to the next 2 bands playing (Balzac and Misfits, not really heavy per say, but in comparison are)

While they are playing, this dude has his arm up in the air, flicking the lead singer the bird; his hand no more than 3 feet away from his face. People in the crowd are getting pretty pissed at this dude, who is just in general making everything uncomfortable. In a little bit, cups of ice are getting thrown at this guy, and one time a lit cigarette. Concert security doesn't mind this, they are looking for an excuse to kick this a-hole out.

A girl, who obviously doesn't like this guy, starts a small pit. Not really to dance or anything, but just basically just randomly runs into this bastard, and tries to aggitate him. After some time he has enough, and throws the girl off him, she hits the floor pretty hard. It is now where the girls 2 guy friends come in, throw this guy to the floor and they all start stomping/kicking him, mostly in the face.

Out of the corner of your eye, you notice security sees this, but it will be another 5 or 6 seconds before they get around the barricade and through the crowd. This is the excuse security is looking for to kick this guy out, and as soon as they break it up, he'll be sent out. You are right next to this attack, what's your play?

EDIT - band was from New Orleans if that sways any opinions, I felt it did at the show.
EDIT2 - I suck as spelling for polls /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Rev. Good Will]

my play in white:
<font color="white"> I broke it up, they were stomping his face, and he was obviously wasn't defending himself. I pulled the girl off of him, and tried to push the other 2 guys who were stomping him off, until security came and escorted guy who got jumped out</font>

[jaydub]

do nothing otherwise you risk getting stomped or tossed.

[Niwa]

definately help him.
no need for anyone to get hurt and he'll have to leave afterwards anyway.

[RunDownHouse]

I would break it up if I could be reasonably sure that doing so wouldn't result in me getting sucked into a fight.

Since I doubt that could be true in the situation you described, I would probably just ignore it.

The guy is obviously a tool but there is no need for him to get stomped to the point of serious injury. But, by trying to break it up you risk yourself getting hurt or if seen by security as involved, get booted yourself. Unless it is someone you care about down there or you feel you are liable if you do not help, self-preservation comes first, Leave it to security to handle.

[Shajen]

Karma's a bitch. He gets what he deserves.

[mslif]

Did you go to the concert by yourself? Is there anyone else around that is attempting to break the fight?
If you are by yourself, the situation could turn bad for you and you could be sucked in the fight.

[krimson]

I stomp the chick for "starting a pit" and trying to piss this guy off and then requiring her friends to kick the [censored] out of the guy when the obvious result happens.

Seriuosly, what did this guy do other than flick off the band before people started throwing [censored] at him and whatnot?

[Rev. Good Will]

I really didn't think me getting the boot was an issue, security was talking about how this guy was problems, and was just waiting for the right moment for an excuse to kick him out of the show.

[Reqtech]

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A girl, who obviously doesn't like this guy, starts a small pit. Not really to dance or anything, but just basically just randomly runs into this bastard, and tries to aggitate him. After some time he has enough, and throws the girl off him, she hits the floor pretty hard. It is now where the girls 2 guy friends come in, throw this guy to the floor and they all start stomping/kicking him, mostly in the face.


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See You In Toledo!

[B Dids]

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Karma's a bitch. He gets what he deserves.

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So because he flipped somebody off he deserved to be assulted.

I'm not sure I can hang with your moral code.

[Shajen]

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Karma's a bitch. He gets what he deserves.

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So because he flipped somebody off he deserved to be assulted.

I'm not sure I can hang with your moral code.

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The OP was implying there was more going on here than what we read.

Edit: and I'm in a pissy mood today. You're probably right, OP should have double-handed pimp slapped the bitch for starting a ruckus.

[B Dids]

Based on my friends that like GWAR, they're far from the long hair metal type. They're nerds. That was basically my impression of most GWAR fans.

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Karma's a bitch. He gets what he deserves.

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So because he flipped somebody off he deserved to be assulted.

I'm not sure I can hang with your moral code.

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Did you completely miss the part where he assulted the girl by tossing her to the ground?? Karma's a bitch, he deserved what he got.

[BottlesOf]

I can't relate to this in any way, and for that, I am thankful.

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Based on my friends that like GWAR, they're far from the long hair metal type. They're nerds. That was basically my impression of most GWAR fans.

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How could someone who likes a band that dress up as monsters during their concerts be considered a nerd? Geesh!


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[Rev. Good Will]

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Karma's a bitch. He gets what he deserves.

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So because he flipped somebody off he deserved to be assulted.

I'm not sure I can hang with your moral code.

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Did you completely miss the part where he assulted the girl by tossing her to the ground?? Karma's a bitch, he deserved what he got.

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To clarify a few things that I forgot in the OP:

1 - He didn't just flip off the lead singer, he left his arm up, giving him the bird for the entire set as of thus far.

2 - When people told him to calm down, he would tell them to f*ck off, and was creating more problems

3 - I feel the rest of the crowd's dislike for this man is based off of how:
- most people in the crowd were big fans of the band
- the band was from New Orleans.

[trying2learn]

there are many people in punk and heavy music circles that consider the, "bird" as a sign of respect...this guy may have been a prick, or he may have been having a good time. throwing the girl sucks, but she was in a pit, and that could easily be misconstrued as well.

it doesn't sound to me like this guy deserved to get stomped, so I think your play was the right one. he got thrown out, and less hurt than he would have otherwise...everyone makes out a little better in the end.

[B Dids]

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A girl, who obviously doesn't like this guy, starts a small pit. Not really to dance or anything, but just basically just randomly runs into this bastard, and tries to aggitate him. After some time he has enough, and throws the girl off him, she hits the floor pretty hard.

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It sounds like he responded to her frequent ("after some time he has enough") assults on him.

I'm not saying he was in the right, I'm just saying that getting stomped out isn't exact the most just response to what he did.

[Vavavoom]

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my play in white:
<font color="white"> I broke it up, they were stomping his face, and he was obviously wasn't defending himself. I pulled the girl off of him, and tried to push the other 2 guys who were stomping him off, until security came and escorted guy who got jumped out</font>

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I'd have done what you did....

When someones on the floor...Fights over....especially 2 vs 1 !

[trying2learn]

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my play in white:
<font color="white"> I broke it up, they were stomping his face, and he was obviously wasn't defending himself. I pulled the girl off of him, and tried to push the other 2 guys who were stomping him off, until security came and escorted guy who got jumped out</font>

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I'd have done what you did....

When someones on the floor...Fights over....especially 2 vs 1 !

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that's another unspoken given in the concert scene. once someone goes down, you have to help them up...no exceptions.

[wildzer0]

The second he threw that girl to the ground, he deserved to get stomped. He was being an [censored] up to that point, and basically asking for a fight from what it sounds like. When it came to the point where someone got hurt because he couldn't handle himself, then he deserves what he gets. I go to shows a few times a weeks, and there's almost without exception, a couple of people that make it hard for everyone else around them to have fun because they're oblivious to how to handle themselves. I ignore them for the most part, but there's definitely a point to draw the line and this dude crossed it.

[canis582]

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Based on my friends that like GWAR, they're far from the long hair metal type. They're nerds. That was basically my impression of most GWAR fans.

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How could someone who likes a band that dress up as monsters during their concerts be considered a nerd? Geesh!


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It was a great show, especially when the sawed the pope in half with a chainsaw.

[astroglide]

http://home.graffiti.net/bornyesterday:graffiti.net/misfits-danzig.jpg

if the show was the real misfits this clearly would not have happened. listen to the live version of horror business from the coffin box set, at the beginning of the song glenn danzig yells to somebody in the audience "you do that one more time you [censored] [censored] and you die" the new crew pales in comparison /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[daveymck]

Whats wrong with being into metal and going to a misfits show /images/graemlins/confused.gif I saw them two nights in a row in smaller venues over here fantastic pit and one of the shows is one of my best ever shows.

[HopeydaFish]

I don't support what happened to the guy, but I don't feel sorry for him, either. When you act like an [censored] in a setting like this, you set yourself up to face repercussions for your actions. I don't think the guy deserved to be stomped, but I also don't feel sorry for him in the least.

It's not worth putting your own safety on the line for someone like this. Let the bouncers handle it.

[CollinEstes]

I don't know why they have to stomp the dude's face. I mean kicking the [censored] out of his ribs is one thing. That said I stil probably wouldn't step in.


And I didn't even realize that people still "pit". Thought that went out with grunge.

[daveymck]

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http://home.graffiti.net/bornyesterday:graffiti.net/misfits-danzig.jpg

if the show was the real misfits this clearly would not have happened. listen to the live version of horror business from the coffin box set, at the beginning of the song glenn danzig yells to somebody in the audience "you do that one more time you [censored] [censored] and you die" the new crew pales in comparison /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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THe same Glen "Dwarf" DAnzig who was shown getting knocked down by some wannabe punk bank lead singer.

I did think Michael Graves era was pretty good but did think that Danzig was going to come back last year after his failures and the misfits losing a couple of people, seemed the right time for it.

[Brom]

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... basically asking for a fight from what it sounds like. When it came to the point where someone got hurt because he couldn't handle himself, then he deserves what he gets.

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It also sounds like the girl in question was "asking for a fight". Only she was asking her two larger friends to fight someone else on her behalf.

She got hurt because she got to a point "where she couldn't handle herself". She put herself in a situation where it should have been obvious what the end result would be.

She nearly "deserved" what she got as well. I DO NOT agree with any violence against women whatsoever. But pushing her to the ground in a pit is getting it easy IMO. I've seen a lot worse things done to chicks in the pit before.

I don't agree with the guy's attitude really either. But it seems to me that the girl was the instigator, agitator, and motivation for the fight, and then she just left it up to her two friends to gang up and stomp some guy in the face while he was laying on the ground. Totally wrong.

I vote to jump in and help. No one should be stomped while they are defenseless on the ground (especially in the face). It's even worse since he was setup in a fight and then beat up by two guys that are obviously pussy and had little business being involved.

[usmfan]

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that's another unspoken given in the concert scene. once someone goes down, you have to help them up...no exceptions.

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I voted for turning away. Not because i think he deserves to get his head stomped in, but because he put himself in that situation. I've never had a few guys jump me because i don't do [censored] like that.