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grandgnu
10-31-2005, 01:39 PM
POKERSTARS $10+1 MTT
641 PLAYERS (TOP 63 PAY)

BLINDS: (10/20)

BUTTON Seat 1: anonymous1 (1500 in chips)
SMALL BLIND Seat 2: anonymous2(1500 in chips)
BIG BLIND Seat 3: anonymous3(1500 in chips)
Seat 4: anonymous4(1500 in chips)
Seat 5: VILLIAN(1500 in chips)
Seat 7: anonymous5(1500 in chips)
Seat 9: HERO(1500 in chips)

anonymous2: posts small blind 10
anonymous3: posts big blind 20
pot 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to HERO [Q /images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif]

anonymous4: folds

VILLIAN: calls 20

anonymous5: folds

HERO: raises 60 to 80

(my thought process is that this is the first hand in a low buy-in tournament. Just 3x the BB will likely be called by more players than I'd like. But I don't want to raise too large and create a pot I'm incapable of getting away from. I went with 4x the BB in this spot, although I'm not adverse to making it 100 in this spot either. There's only been one limper, so I just have to worry about him and the blinds, and I'll have position on them post-flop. If there were more potential players I'd likely raise larger, perhaps in the 120-150 range if there are a gazillion limpers. First hand, so no reads)


All others fold

Villian calls 60.

POT=210 CHIPS

FLOP: Q /images/graemlins/club.gif K /images/graemlins/diamond.gif T /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Villian checks

Hero: ????

Please explain your line here, check or bet. The amount if betting and why, etc.
10-31-2005, 01:42 PM
I lead out with a bet of $150. Kills pot odds for the straight, but if player has hit the straight, you'll know and can let go. If the villian has an OESD, you don't want them getting another card for free.

If you check, let's say, and a 3 comes, your decision is still just as hard as the last betting round, as he could be trapping you. With no reads on the first hand, this play is risky. You have a monster, but it may not be the nuts.

Sidenote: I'd like to predict we'll see some sort of straight flush draw in this hand.
schwza
10-31-2005, 01:45 PM
betting 150 sounds good. way too many draws to check.
Sam T.
10-31-2005, 01:47 PM
Bet 150. If he raises, push. If he's on AJ, turn the fourth Queen.
22suited
10-31-2005, 01:49 PM
as soon as that bet pot button pops up i hit it for $210
Roman
10-31-2005, 01:55 PM
160 is a good bet, denies draws etc etc. I dont like 150 here for a couple of reasons, especially cause this is PS.
kuro
10-31-2005, 01:58 PM
160 is the same as betting 150. Care to elaborate why you think it's different without invoking numerology?
Toro
10-31-2005, 01:59 PM
Open fold and avoid the bad beat.
grandgnu
10-31-2005, 02:00 PM
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Open fold and avoid the bad beat.

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Hush up old man! *smirk* /images/graemlins/grin.gif
SossMan
10-31-2005, 02:04 PM
2/3-3/4 pot looks right. anywhere from 150-200 should be fine.
Jbrochu
10-31-2005, 02:07 PM
Due to the highly coordinated board, I want to take this down right now if possible so I make a pot sized bet.
pooh74
10-31-2005, 02:12 PM
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Bet 150. If he raises, push. If he's on AJ, turn the fourth Queen.

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EverettKings
10-31-2005, 02:18 PM
This is a pretty obvious bet, and a strong one at that. I pot it.

Edit: And you're reraising/pushing whatever if he gets aggro. AT can have my money, stacks are too shallow and my hand is too likely to be ahead (and I still have 7 then 10 outs if behind).
KneeCo
10-31-2005, 02:28 PM
Bet the pot.
Push all-in against a reraise.

You really have to avoid giving him a freecard or proper drawing odds, given the board, I can't see an argument for slowplaying here.
10-31-2005, 02:30 PM
You most probably have the best hand right now, but on a draw heavy board, so i'd bet about 180-200 and make him make a mistake if he's on a draw.. if he folds, that's not bad either, not really a board where you want to encourage action even with the trips.
10-31-2005, 02:54 PM
Its a dangerous board, you tripped your queens, but you are very suceptible to straights and flushes. I bet 150 here.
grandgnu
10-31-2005, 03:23 PM
Here is action on the turn: The Turn (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=3822940&page=0&vc=#P ost3822940)
MrMoo
10-31-2005, 03:53 PM
Bet 200.
madmisha
10-31-2005, 04:25 PM
I would bet the pot, you are probably ahead, and he will likely call if he got a piece of the flop, if not you are not getting any more money out of him
JustPlayingSmart
10-31-2005, 06:54 PM
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Bet 150. If he raises, push. If he's on AJ, turn the fourth Queen.

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Turning the 4th queen would be stupid here. He should save that for when villain has KK.
10-31-2005, 08:10 PM
I bet 220, mainly because I think 4 red chips on top of my bet gets called more frequently. Too many draws to check.