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golfcchs

10-30-2005, 09:59 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

BB (t2757)
UTG (t310)
MP (t1055)
Button (t2220)
Hero (t1658)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
3 folds, Hero raises to t350, BB calls t250.

Flop: (t700) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)

Hero bets 700, BB raise all in, Hero calls
Turn: (t700) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

River: (t700) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: t3316

BB is a slightly loose tricky player. He got his chips reraising QQ all in on 75 raise level 2 and limp reraising QQ early level 3. Dont know if it is worth having this confrontation with the big stack when I will be out of position on the flop.

splashpot

10-30-2005, 10:01 PM

You're pretty much commiting yourself with your flop bet. You should probably just lead the flop with an all in.

golfcchs

10-30-2005, 10:05 PM

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You're pretty much commiting yourself with your flop bet. You should probably just lead the flop with an all in.

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Ya I know just though I could get more value by not pushing.

My real question here is do you raise preflop? If so how much? Do you ever limp here?

MissOt

10-31-2005, 01:01 AM

fold pf

splashpot

10-31-2005, 01:06 AM

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fold pf

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Folding is way too tight. The blinds are high enough to raise this from the SB.

MissOt

10-31-2005, 01:17 AM

oh didnt see he was sb

SammyKid11

10-31-2005, 01:33 AM

Actually, I like the way you played this hand. Of course you're raising KQ from the SB at Level 4. And I think betting the flop like you did is okay, too - it gives BB reason to believe he can get you to fold by pushing. Sure, sometimes you'll see AA-KK, AQ, 77, or 55...but I think a lot more times you'll see something like QTs or 99 or worse. IMO, good play.

Scuba Chuck

10-31-2005, 02:32 AM

Don't second guess this hand. I forget it in a heartbeat and start a new one. Unless there is some trick to learn...

psyduck

10-31-2005, 02:36 AM

played fine throughout.

edit: one thing though - you know that big stacks have looser calling standards. I'd complete sometimes and check/fold a missed flop. because he has position on you, hand becomes harder to play when you miss the flop and you raise PF. do you c-bet? do you check/fold?

Pat Southern

10-31-2005, 02:44 AM

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You're pretty much commiting yourself with your flop bet. You should probably just lead the flop with an all in.

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This is the best way to win the minimum while still losing the max. I'd bet 400 on the flop and call a push.

golfcchs

10-31-2005, 02:55 AM

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one thing though - you know that big stacks have looser calling standards. I'd complete sometimes and check/fold a missed flop. because he has position on you, hand becomes harder to play when you miss the flop and you raise PF. do you c-bet? do you check/fold?

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I think I reluctantly continue bet, but wish I had limped pre flop.

tigerite

10-31-2005, 05:45 AM

I think the pf raise was a bit too high, but otherwise, it seems fine really.

se2schul

10-31-2005, 11:23 AM

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oh didnt see he was sb

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KQ is pretty strong 5 handed. I'd play it either for a limp or a raise from any position while 5 handed with 17BB.