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MelK
10-30-2005, 12:19 PM
The new system restricts how many searches you can make. If you try to search within a few minutes of your last search, you are blocked.

Also, I put an animated gif in my signature, but it doesn't seem to allow it (too much height I think - I'll try a smaller one)

MelK
10-30-2005, 12:25 PM
Anyone notice that Dynasty's avatar is now one of the "stock avatars" you can choose?

tonypaladino
10-30-2005, 12:26 PM
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You cannot make another search at this time. Please try again in a few minutes.

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this sucks balls, as does the sigs and the lack of displaying how many new posts.

InchoateHand
10-30-2005, 12:28 PM
But you can post a poll in a reply. Isn't that cool?

jakethebake
10-30-2005, 12:28 PM
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If you try to search within a few minutes of your last search, you are blocked.

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This is a huge problem. The other stuff is very minor, but limiting searches will have a big impact on people starting crappy threads because they couldn't find what they wanted quickly. I'm really hoping it's temporary.

jakethebake
10-30-2005, 12:29 PM
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But you can post a poll in a reply. Isn't that cool?

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Very cool.

MelK
10-30-2005, 12:29 PM
All the old features that were deleted last year (like the polls and signatures) have been returned.

This would be great if moderators had the ability to selectively disable fundtions like these for individual users.

Patrick del Poker Grande
10-30-2005, 12:31 PM
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But you can post a poll in a reply. Isn't that cool?

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InchoateHand
10-30-2005, 12:32 PM
I voted Yes, it will ruin things.

jakethebake
10-30-2005, 12:33 PM
You're already ruining a pretty good thread. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Sponger15SB
10-30-2005, 12:34 PM
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You're already ruining a pretty good thread. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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diebitter
10-30-2005, 12:36 PM
Yes, the search limitation truly sucks.

Jack of Arcades
10-30-2005, 12:36 PM
I'm guessing this is done to cut down on bandwidth costs.

jakethebake
10-30-2005, 12:37 PM
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I'm guessing this is done to cut down on bandwidth costs.

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I'm guessing you're right. But this is a huge problem. Now everyone will start new threads instead of searching. How will that impact bandwidth costs?

waffle
10-30-2005, 12:38 PM
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I'm guessing this is done to cut down on CPU/db load.

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jakethebake
10-30-2005, 12:39 PM
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I'm guessing this is done to cut down on CPU/db load.

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I have no idea what this means? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

Lazymeatball
10-30-2005, 12:40 PM
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I'm guessing this is done to cut down on bandwidth costs.

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I'm guessing you're right. But this is a huge problem. Now everyone will start new threads instead of searching. How will that impact bandwidth costs?

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Did anyone ever really do a search before starting a new thread, or is that just something we yelled at newbs to do. Personally I only ever search when looking for a thread I've already read.

waffle
10-30-2005, 12:41 PM
Searching the archives of bajillion posts isn't cheap in terms of computing power, especially running multiple searches at the same time. I suspect this is why they added the recent 6 month time frame limitation and why this new limitation has been added.

But I agree, it sucks.

InchoateHand
10-30-2005, 12:41 PM
Why do I get the feeling that in one fell swoop of upgrade, well intentioned forum providers have eviscerated three diligent weeks of [censored]'s work?

jakethebake
10-30-2005, 12:41 PM
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Did anyone ever really do a search before starting a new thread, or is that just something we yelled at newbs to do. Personally I only ever search when looking for a thread I've already read.

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I do it. I also do a lot of searching in the strategy forums. It will really suck if we can't search in those forums. And the impact on the books forum will be insane.

OrcaDK
10-30-2005, 12:43 PM
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I'm guessing this is done to cut down on CPU/db load.

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I'm telling you, you're right. These changes have almost no impact on bandwidth. They will have a major (positive) impact upon CPU/DB load.

StevieG
10-30-2005, 12:46 PM
I've done searches to point people to existing threads on their topic. This is not to be a douche. But the search is poor, and it is easier to find something that you have seen before than find threads related to something you want to know.

The search function is weak as is. Limiting users to one search every X makes it practically unusable.

MelK
10-30-2005, 12:48 PM
Every time you click on someone's username and take a look at their posts, that counts as a search too.

jakethebake
10-30-2005, 12:49 PM
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I've done searches to point people to existing threads on their topic. This is not to be a douche. But the search is poor, and it is easier to find something that you have seen before than find threads related to something you want to know.

The search function is weak as is. Limiting users to one search every X makes it practically unusable.

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Let's hope this is temporary. Maybe it's limited for now while they upgrade it? Too optimistic?

waffle
10-30-2005, 12:52 PM
I think that's too optimistic -- they took down the entire forum while they upgraded. I don't think this would be a temporary measure for the upgrade. Here's my optimistic view:

Maybe the new search limitation is a default setting in the upgraded software, and if we petition the forum-master(s) they will change it back to the way it used to be. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

MelK
10-30-2005, 12:53 PM
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Let's hope this is temporary. Maybe it's limited for now while they upgrade it? Too optimistic?

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I'm pretty sure this is not temporary. This is one of the topics I emailed Chuck about when I discovered this limitation in the archives forum (thats why it was the first thing I checked when I saw we had an upgrade).

Since Chuck knew about this for weeks, it must have been a conscious decision to do this. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

jakethebake
10-30-2005, 12:55 PM
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Since Chuck knew about this for weeks, it must have been a conscious decision to do this. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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Given that the censoring is also not working, I'm guessing they'll still be making modifications though. Maybe they'll fix this too.

jakethebake
10-30-2005, 01:02 PM
ok. I found out, this search limitation can definitely be reset in the software to allow for more searches. This really needs to be done.

MrWookie47
10-30-2005, 01:06 PM
How did you find that out?

jakethebake
10-30-2005, 01:07 PM
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How did you find that out?

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Threadsdev.net

TomHimself
10-30-2005, 01:09 PM
am i the only one who misses the new replies to a thread in red in the link to where you click it?

ChipWrecked
10-30-2005, 01:09 PM
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The search function is weak as is. Limiting users to one search every X makes it practically unusable.

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The time frame part of the search has always been confusing for me. No disrespect to 2p2, this forum software has always sucked balls. Much better exists out there.

Second Tony P. on: I want to see how many replies since I was on last.

StevieG
10-30-2005, 01:23 PM
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Second Tony P. on: I want to see how many replies since I was on last.

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Well that seems to be back in order. Good work on that one! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

UBB code insert Javascript error was fixed, too.

MrWookie47
10-30-2005, 01:45 PM
It also looks like searches return a max of 200 results. Has this feature always been there, or is that new, too?

jakethebake
10-30-2005, 01:45 PM
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It also looks like searches return a max of 200 results. Has this feature always been there, or is that new, too?

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It's new. This is also a default setting that can be changed.

tonypaladino
10-30-2005, 01:57 PM
The cool part about polls in replies, is that we can have an official stupid poll thread and shove them all in one place

jakethebake
10-30-2005, 01:57 PM
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The cool part about polls in replies, is that we can have an official stupid poll thread and shove them all in one place

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We can also have "Should a mod lock this crappy thread immediately" polls?

MelK
10-30-2005, 02:00 PM
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The cool part about polls in replies, is that we can have an official stupid poll thread and shove them all in one place

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We can also have "Should a mod lock this crappy thread immediately" polls?

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If you put up a "Should the OP of this thread be [censored}?" poll, would that be considered a personal attack? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

jakethebake
10-30-2005, 02:01 PM
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The cool part about polls in replies, is that we can have an official stupid poll thread and shove them all in one place

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We can also have "Should a mod lock this crappy thread immediately" polls?

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If you put up a "Should the OP of this thread be [censored}?" poll, would that be considered an attack? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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I don't know. Would a "Should the person that made the Should the OP of this thread be [censored} [censored]? poll" poll be an attack?

tonypaladino
10-30-2005, 02:06 PM
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The cool part about polls in replies, is that we can have an official stupid poll thread and shove them all in one place

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We can also have "Should a mod lock this crappy thread immediately" polls?

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If you put up a "Should the OP of this thread be [censored}?" poll, would that be considered an attack? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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I don't know. Would a "Should the person that made the Should the OP of this thread be [censored} [censored]? poll" poll be an attack?

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Should this keep going on?

ChristinaB
10-30-2005, 02:55 PM
This search glitch is terrible. It makes the forum hard to use. When you are searching you typically want to do a lot of search modifications, but now you are thwarted.

Clarkmeister
10-30-2005, 03:00 PM
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You cannot make another search at this time. Please try again in a few minutes.

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this sucks balls,

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Clarkmeister
10-30-2005, 03:00 PM
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This search glitch is terrible. It makes the forum hard to use. When you are searching you typically want to do a lot of search modifications, but now you are thwarted.

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Clarkmeister
10-30-2005, 03:04 PM
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This search glitch is terrible. It makes the forum hard to use. When you are searching you typically want to do a lot of search modifications, but now you are thwarted.

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Also, before you could just search for 1-year, even though threads are archived after a few months. Now, you are forced to type in the 4-months in the search function. Terrible. If that's going to be the max search range, then it should be the default search option.

The thread rating thing is also painful to look at. I know it had been up before about a year ago, and the decision was made to not have the thread ratings visible on the front page of each forum. That was the right decision and we should go back to it.

AngryCola
10-30-2005, 03:06 PM
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The thread rating thing is also painful to look at. I know it had been up before about a year ago, and the decision was made to not have the thread ratings visible on the front page of each forum. That was the right decision and we should go back to it.

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I agree.

It isn't as big of a headache as some of the other issues, though.

MelK
10-30-2005, 04:01 PM
The ratings column just disappeared. This upgrade is so much a work in progress. Sigs gone, ratings gone, I wonder if polls in reply posts are still enabled?

AngryCola
10-30-2005, 04:02 PM
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The ratings column just disappeared.

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Mat seems to be on the case.

All bow before Mat.

CrazyEyez
10-30-2005, 04:28 PM
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The ratings column just disappeared.

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Mat seems to be on the case.

All bow before Mat.

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nomadtla
10-30-2005, 04:34 PM
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The ratings column just disappeared. This upgrade is so much a work in progress. Sigs gone, ratings gone, I wonder if polls in reply posts are still enabled?

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I think they are.

otctrader
10-30-2005, 06:42 PM
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Also, before you could just search for 1-year, even though threads are archived after a few months. Now, you are forced to type in the 4-months in the search function. Terrible. If that's going to be the max search range, then it should be the default search option.

The thread rating thing is also painful to look at. I know it had been up before about a year ago, and the decision was made to not have the thread ratings visible on the front page of each forum. That was the right decision and we should go back to it.

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What's really painful now is take a prolific poster who has posted 1000 some posts in 4 months. Even with the 4 month range selected, it caps the results at 200 posts without the ability to click "next" to gather the next 200.

Instead, you have to start meddling with date ranges (i.e. later than 4 weeks, earlier than 6) to get the next 200 posts. Very annoying!

gorie
10-30-2005, 07:57 PM
this search limitation is frustrating :/

ChristinaB
10-31-2005, 09:27 AM
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this search limitation is frustrating :/

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Why hasn't this been fixed? All the other stuff has been.

This is the glitch that really matters. We NEED to be able to search!!!

El Barto
10-31-2005, 11:26 AM
I timed it. It blocks you for 1 minute after each search.

CrazyEyez
10-31-2005, 11:39 AM
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this search limitation is frustrating :/

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Why hasn't this been fixed? All the other stuff has been.

This is the glitch that really matters. We NEED to be able to search!!!

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The Yugoslavian
10-31-2005, 11:39 AM
JUST USE GOOGLE.

Goodness.

Can't believe ppl primarily still use 2p2's search function.

Yugoslav

MelK
10-31-2005, 11:49 AM
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JUST USE GOOGLE.

Goodness.

Can't believe ppl primarily still use 2p2's search function.

Yugoslav

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How would you do a search for all the posts made by one user?

Rick Nebiolo
10-31-2005, 11:51 AM
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JUST USE GOOGLE.

Goodness.

Can't believe ppl primarily still use 2p2's search function.

Yugoslav

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How good is Google for searching within the older archives or across many forums? Can you provide some usage hints?

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Rick Nebiolo
10-31-2005, 11:54 AM
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This search glitch is terrible. It makes the forum hard to use. When you are searching you typically want to do a lot of search modifications, but now you are thwarted.

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And I s_cked at seaching before the modifications. Sh_t.

jakethebake
10-31-2005, 05:12 PM
This needs to get fixed soon... (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/wma-pop-up/-/B000002W8G001007/104-7017253-6928708)

TomHimself
10-31-2005, 07:55 PM
did anyone else font on all the forums just get alot smaller.

fwiw im using the original 2+2 forum

MelK
11-01-2005, 01:45 PM
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The new system restricts how many searches you can make. If you try to search within a few minutes of your last search, you are blocked.

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Unless I am mistaken, this search thing seems to be fixed now. I can make multiple searches in a fast time frame. Excellent!