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catlover
10-29-2005, 11:07 PM
40 80 online poker.

Hero raises with K /images/graemlins/heart.gif Q /images/graemlins/club.gif in EP. Unknown coldcalls
in the cutoff. All others fold. Most unknowns in this game are fish. The fact that he cold called makes it even more likely that he is a fish.

Flop K /images/graemlins/spade.gif 8 /images/graemlins/club.gif 7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif. Bet raise, call.

Turn 2 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif Check, bet, raise, call.

River A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif Now what?

catlover
10-29-2005, 11:08 PM
By the way, if I lead, I am definitely calling a raise.

10-29-2005, 11:21 PM
man up and bet

10-29-2005, 11:34 PM
cold called and raised turn. If you think he's a fish then your prob behind. Or are you assuming your ahead??? I don't think he'll fold so if u bet it has to be for value and since i don't think your ahead i'd prob check call since its HU. I think he bets this river with hands your ahead of such as bluffs and weaker kings that he might fold (the bluffs) and raise (the weaker kings + hands that beat you).

catlover
10-29-2005, 11:45 PM
I'm the one who raised the turn. I am assuming I was ahead on the turn. On the river I have no idea.

Drontier
10-30-2005, 12:14 AM
I delay about 7 seconds and bet/call. Btw you're gonna get sued by greenstein for that title.

catlover
10-30-2005, 12:21 AM
What are you trying to accomplish with the delay?

Drontier
10-30-2005, 12:44 AM
if youre not going to fold to a raise, invite him to raise here more often with air.

nummerfire
10-30-2005, 01:04 AM
Bet.

If you check he will most often bet when you are behind and normally check hands you beat. I do not think you normally can induce a bluff.

flawless_victory
10-30-2005, 09:18 AM
bet.

bicyclekick
10-30-2005, 01:31 PM
betting is by far the best play.

Ryno
10-30-2005, 03:51 PM
He is not betting any of the hands you want him to have if you check. Bet/call is better than checking, by a lot. Bet/fold, eh, I'd have to be there to do that. Even if he hit 2 pair he has to be worried about AK, so I don't know what he'd raise with. Guess that makes calling more right.

TStoneMBD
10-30-2005, 03:53 PM
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if youre not going to fold to a raise, invite him to raise here more often with air.

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id prefer to bet fast so that way he doesnt raise you with a wide range of 2 pair holdings.

i agree that this river needs to be bet.

eviljeff
10-30-2005, 05:27 PM
I'm surprised at the responses this is getting. bet/call seems like the worst option to me. is he really popping you with KJ or worse? if you think you have to value bet here go ahead, but I fold to the raise.

goofball
10-30-2005, 05:50 PM
if he raises we're gettign almost 10:1. I agree he almost never raises with KJ, but what percentage of the time do you think he's popping you with air? For many players at this level I don't think the number is frequently going to substantiallyl lower than 10.

edit: also, what exactly is a raise representing here?