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Mercman572
10-29-2005, 02:22 AM
So over the last few days I have been playing poker room for their bonus. Big mistake. The play is different than antyhing I've seen before, opponents are so concerned with winning each individual pot (minraising usually) That I'm sometimes left paying off people when I shouldn't be or folding best hands too often. I think I've been adjusting ok, but I'm getting killed with these bad beats and bad situations and I'm trying hard not to tilt. If I played any of these wrong please let me know (I don't think I played any of them optimally but am not going to try and disguise this from being a sort of bad beat post), they're just over the last 2 days and its the first time I've gotten whooped so consistently. I know the bad beats aren't really welcome, I just need some reassurance and advice since my money on the site has dropped to $470 and I don't know if I should reload, or drop limits and play only 1 or 2 tables to cool off for a while and get a feel for the site or something and get some easy money while I recoup[. I guess I'm shook from this bit of variance.

The first of many: Villain is a total rock. 12/3/1.5 after 200 hands. He could only have AA or KK given preflop action
PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

($89)
UTG ($26)
UTG+1 ($110.20)
MP1 ($118.20)
MP2 ($103.90)
CO ($171.25)
Button ($82.70)
SB ($19.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 1010
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">HERO raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $6, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333"> raises to $11</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero Calls, Button calls $5.

Flop: ($30.50) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333"> bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $36</font>, Button folds, calls $12.

Turn: ($78.50) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
checks, <font color="#CC3333">wcourt1 bets $83.2 (All-In)</font>, calls $54 (All-In).

River: ($215.70) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $215.70

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
has Kc Kd (full house, kings full of fives).
Hero has (full house, tens full of fives).
Outcome: wins $215.70. </font>

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($89)
MP1 ($104)
MP2 ($97.10)
MP3 ($48.80)
CO ($86.10)
HERO ($111.95)
SB ($38.90)
BB ($74)
UTG ($102)
UTG+1 ($212.40)

Preflop: is with AA
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds Hero Calls </font>, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($11) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $25</font>, BB folds, MP3 calls $15.

Turn: ($51) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, MP3 calls $23.80 (All-In).

River: ($98.80) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $98.80

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP3 has Ad Qd (three of a kind, queens).
HERO has (Two Pair, Aces and queens).
Outcome: MP3 wins $98.80. </font>

I try to give 5max $50 buy-in a shot and single table to cool off. Bad move, I look down at KK in my first orbit /images/graemlins/shocked.gif
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($63)
BB ($49.25)
UTG ($16.65)
MP ($68.05)
Button ($89)

Preflop: is with KK
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">HERO raises to $5.25</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">HERO raises (43.75 $16</font>, Button calls $33.25.

Flop: ($55) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: ($55) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($55) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $55

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero doesn't show (KK).
Button has Ah Ad (two pair, aces and nines).
Outcome: Button wins $55. </font>

10-29-2005, 02:36 AM
Ehh, just a string of bad beats. I don't see any glaring mistakes from your play, just a couple nasty draw outs. Your lines still appear to be +EV in my opinion.

Malachii
10-29-2005, 02:42 AM
These are all simply bad luck.

On hand 3, call his preflop reraise and checkraise all in. I'm assuming you have no reads for any of these hands. Work on that.

Mercman572
10-29-2005, 02:43 AM
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These are all simply bad luck.

On hand 3, call his preflop reraise and checkraise all in. I'm assuming you have no reads for any of these hands. Work on that.

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?? First hand I had a read that villain was a super rock and would be married to an overpair. The other player had just been seated in hand 2, and I had just sat in hand 3.

10-29-2005, 02:46 AM
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These are all simply bad luck.

On hand 3, call his preflop reraise and checkraise all in. I'm assuming you have no reads for any of these hands. Work on that.

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?? First hand I had a read that villain was a super rock and would be married to an overpair. The other player had just been seated in hand 2, and I had just sat in hand 3.

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Regardless, you're not getting away from the nut boat on the turn, and it'd be hard as hell to drop AA with a board like that. (Until the river)

Malachii
10-29-2005, 02:47 AM
My apologies, I skimmed over that big block of text at the top. I look for reads right above the actual hand history. No matter.

Seriously though, don't beat yourself up over this. These things happen.

mason55
10-29-2005, 06:24 AM
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10-29-2005, 08:58 AM
Third hand is bad. If you have no reads, than you have to be conservative and assume he has AA. Other hands seem fine. Use the cardplayer.com odds calculator to give yourself a better feeling about when the money goes in.

Don't the pokerroom bonusses suck?

Komodo
10-29-2005, 09:25 AM
I dont see how you can possibly fold KK in a 4-handed game. you migth take a flop, so as not to lose any AK, JJ or QQ hand, but all the same, I dont see how you can fold the kings on that flop.

10-29-2005, 09:43 AM
It's 5 handed, and didn't you see this: Button raises to $1, 1 fold, HERO raises to $5.25, UTG folds, Button raises to $16.

With no reads, that's either KK or AA, and only a slight possibility of QQ. He could be BSing around, but don't risk your stack on that with no reads.

I play 6-handed and KK vs AA comes up more than you think.

jjb108
10-29-2005, 10:08 AM
You owe me $2 for reading your 2 bad beats.

Other than that. Looked reasonable.

mosuavea
10-29-2005, 11:08 AM
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Perfect

Mercman572
10-29-2005, 11:36 AM
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lol for real. bad day, feel better now though altough I'll have to drop down to 50s for a day or two so I have enough money at PR for more variance without reloading. going through that all last night was tough though. but my confindence is already back. I'm taking a break for the rest of the weekend and then going to try and rebound hard.

Mercman572
10-29-2005, 11:42 AM
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You owe me $2 for reading your 2 bad beats.

Other than that. Looked reasonable.

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coming right up once I get the $120+ someodd Sklansky Bucks in the mail /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

ghostface
10-29-2005, 01:28 PM
You are now obligated to post 3 beats that you lay on people.