QQ overpair hand

[lmw]

The other caller is loose aggressive donk. preflop raiser has been solid. called the flop to see what PFR would do. once he calls i'm done right?

Hand #9174068-4257 at Aina (No Limit Hold'em)
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Started at 28/Oct/05 14:43:40

towler is at seat 0 with $24.50.
schwieger23 is at seat 1 with $14.
dalebe is at seat 2 with $57.30.
Saturn is at seat 3 with $33.20.
guldfinger is at seat 4 with $15.30.
hubijerk is at seat 5 with $48.50.
TheIceMan2179 is at seat 6 with $17.55.
JeremiahI is at seat 7 with $23.15.
mw444 is at seat 8 with $49.50.
joyce57 is at seat 9 with $55.15.
The button is at seat 6.

JeremiahI posts the small blind of $.25.
mw444 posts the big blind of $.50.

towler: -- --
schwieger23: -- --
dalebe: -- --
Saturn: -- --
guldfinger: -- --
hubijerk: -- --
TheIceMan2179: -- --
JeremiahI: -- --
mw444: Qh Qd
joyce57: -- --

Pre-flop:

joyce57 raises to $1.75. towler folds. schwieger23
folds. dalebe folds. Saturn folds. guldfinger
calls. hubijerk folds. TheIceMan2179 folds.
JeremiahI folds. mw444 calls.

Flop (board: 3d 7d Jd):

mw444 checks. joyce57 checks. guldfinger bets
$5.50. mw444 calls. joyce57 calls.

Turn (board: 3d 7d Jd 9h):

mw444 checks. joyce57 checks. guldfinger goes
all-in for $8.05. mw444 folds. joyce57 calls.

River (board: 3d 7d Jd 9h 4s):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

guldfinger shows Jc Ac.
guldfinger has Jc Ac 7d Jd 9h: a pair of jacks.
joyce57 mucks cards.
(joyce57 has Kh Ad.)

I wish you didn't post the results, but either way, this is what my advice was going to be:

raise the flop, or fold. I don't like calling the flop, because you just don't know where you stand.

[Godfather80]

[ QUOTE ]
The other caller is loose aggressive donk. preflop raiser has been solid. called the flop to see what PFR would do. once he calls i'm done right?

Hand #9174068-4257 at Aina (No Limit Hold'em)
Powered by UltimateBet
Started at 28/Oct/05 14:43:40

towler is at seat 0 with $24.50.
schwieger23 is at seat 1 with $14.
dalebe is at seat 2 with $57.30.
Saturn is at seat 3 with $33.20.
guldfinger is at seat 4 with $15.30.
hubijerk is at seat 5 with $48.50.
TheIceMan2179 is at seat 6 with $17.55.
JeremiahI is at seat 7 with $23.15.
mw444 is at seat 8 with $49.50.
joyce57 is at seat 9 with $55.15.
The button is at seat 6.

JeremiahI posts the small blind of $.25.
mw444 posts the big blind of $.50.

towler: -- --
schwieger23: -- --
dalebe: -- --
Saturn: -- --
guldfinger: -- --
hubijerk: -- --
TheIceMan2179: -- --
JeremiahI: -- --
mw444: Qh Qd
joyce57: -- --

Pre-flop:

joyce57 raises to $1.75. towler folds. schwieger23
folds. dalebe folds. Saturn folds. guldfinger
calls. hubijerk folds. TheIceMan2179 folds.
JeremiahI folds. mw444 calls.

Flop (board: 3d 7d Jd):

mw444 checks. joyce57 checks. guldfinger bets
$5.50. mw444 calls. joyce57 calls.

Turn (board: 3d 7d Jd 9h):

mw444 checks. joyce57 checks. guldfinger goes
all-in for $8.05. mw444 folds. joyce57 calls.

River (board: 3d 7d Jd 9h 4s):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

guldfinger shows Jc Ac.
guldfinger has Jc Ac 7d Jd 9h: a pair of jacks.
joyce57 mucks cards.
(joyce57 has Kh Ad.)

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Reraise preflop. Lead the flop.

[rikz]

[ QUOTE ]
Pre-flop:

joyce57 raises to $1.75. towler folds. schwieger23
folds. dalebe folds. Saturn folds. guldfinger
calls. hubijerk folds. TheIceMan2179 folds.
JeremiahI folds. mw444 calls.

Flop (board: 3d 7d Jd):

mw444 checks.

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I think this preflop call and flop check is much worse than re-raising preflop and making a strong continuation bet. I think you could reraise preflop to $8, and lead the flop for 3/4 pot. After that, you need to figure if your opponent would have just called preflop with AA or KK, whether your opponent would go all-in with just TPWK or a pair with a big diamond, or whether your opponent would only come over the top of your continuation bet with a set or 2-pair or flopped flush.

Preflop, if a tight preflop raiser pushed all in preflop over your QQ re-raise, then I'd fold. I usually fold QQ to a 3-bet all-in unless I have a read on villain as a maniac, or at least a loose pre-flop pusher.

You might very well have won either preflop or on the flop taking a more aggressive line right from the beginning in this hand.

[lmw]

A preflop raise would have helped in this situation, but I do not like calling all in reraises from UTG with QQ. Do I need to get over this at 50NL?

I called because i felt like i was way ahead of the other caller, but didn't want to fall into a trap from the PFR. If he folds, I am in good shape to stack the other caller.