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johnnybeef

10-28-2005, 03:48 AM

A little bit about me:

I am 25, single, I play online poker for a living, I live in Columbus, OH, and I hate winter. One of my best friends lives in Irvine CA, and my little brother is probably going to transfer to UNLV next fall. I have several acquaintances from 2+2 at both places that I know would turn into good friends if I were to be around them more often. I have bounced back between the two selections at least 30 times in the last two months. So, I have decided to leave the decision to my fellow STTers

p.s. If there is any further information that you require to help me with my decision, post a question in this thread.

So without any further ado:

ilya

10-28-2005, 03:51 AM

I vote SoCal, I think you can have a more balanced life there while still having plenty of opportunities to play live poker.

suited_ace

10-28-2005, 03:56 AM

There's more to life than just poker, and I think it's easier to be reminded of that in SoCal than in Vegas.

jgunnip

10-28-2005, 04:01 AM

SoCal and a car that gets really good milage.

The Yugoslavian

10-28-2005, 04:07 AM

As much as I hate to admit it, I voted SoCal, /images/graemlins/frown.gif.

But that doesn't mean you *have* to move out here!!

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Yugoslav

Irieguy

10-28-2005, 04:08 AM

I spent the first 22 years of my life in SoCal. It's cool. But there are some major downsides... major.

I honestly can't for the life of me figure out why everybody in the world doesn't live in Vegas. I'm glad they don't, but I don't understand how they choose to live somewhere else.

I really, really don't get it.

Irieguy

johnnybeef

10-28-2005, 04:09 AM

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SoCal and a car that gets really good milage.

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i drive a grand cherokee limited with a V8....

runner4life7

10-28-2005, 04:09 AM

I voted so-cal but i just love the area out there so im biased.

The Yugoslavian

10-28-2005, 04:12 AM

johnnybeef

10-28-2005, 04:14 AM

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I honestly can't for the life of me figure out why everybody in the world doesn't live in Vegas. I'm glad they don't, but I don't understand how they choose to live somewhere else.

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I guess we're not all ridiculously huge ballers, /images/graemlins/frown.gif.

Yugoslav

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I am one in training

Newt_Buggs

10-28-2005, 04:14 AM

I voted socal, but I'm biased because I live here, although my brother did move to vegas a couple of months ago.

johnnybeef

10-28-2005, 04:15 AM

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I voted so-cal but i just love the area out there so im biased.

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Southern California is as beautiful as it gets (unless you get to LA and see all of the smog.)

Irieguy

10-28-2005, 04:20 AM

There's an ATM machine at the Hard Rock Casino, at the Northeast section of the casino floor that will let you withdraw $2,000 from a Neteller card at 11:59pm, and then another $2,000 at 12:01am.

If you have 2 Neteller cards, like any self-respecting SNGer, that means you can get your hands on $8K in cash in 2 minutes without talking to a human being.

And, of course, they pay it in Benjis.

Irieguy

johnnybeef

10-28-2005, 04:22 AM

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There's an ATM machine at the Hard Rock Casino, at the Northeast section of the casino floor that will let you withdraw $2,000 from a Neteller card at 11:59pm, and then another $2,000 at 12:01am.

If you have 2 Neteller cards, like any self-respecting SNGer, that means you can get your hands on $8K in cash in 2 minutes without talking to a human being.

And, of course, they pay it in Benjis.

Irieguy

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This is one of the things that worries me. Well, that and the fact that you will be delivering all of my illegitimates.

bawcerelli

10-28-2005, 04:55 AM

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This is one of the things that worries me. Well, that and the fact that you will be delivering all of my illegitimates.

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NH

can't beat cali for year around nice weather. never been to vegas though.

SumZero

10-28-2005, 05:01 AM

Isn't the proper answer to get a <font color="white">girlfriend or</font> appartment in both locations?

Degen

10-28-2005, 05:20 AM

Vegas would be the biggest mistake you ever made bro

SoCal you can play all the poker you want, but you can also avoid gambling very easily if things aren't going well. That'd be mighty difficult in Vegas.

I lived in Long Beach for over a year and moved just a few months ago...I did not like LA at all, dirty, smoggy, huge, sprawling, traffic filled mess...but it is a real city, and the weather is pretty great most of the time...Vegas would be v v bad, IMHO

skipperbob

10-28-2005, 08:10 AM

I've quit my job, moved and shutoff my phones....So, go wherever you want /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

curtains

10-28-2005, 08:11 AM

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There's an ATM machine at the Hard Rock Casino, at the Northeast section of the casino floor that will let you withdraw $2,000 from a Neteller card at 11:59pm, and then another $2,000 at 12:01am.

If you have 2 Neteller cards, like any self-respecting SNGer, that means you can get your hands on $8K in cash in 2 minutes without talking to a human being.

And, of course, they pay it in Benjis.

Irieguy

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wtf I only have one neteller card. How do you go about getting two exactly?

ReDeYES88

10-28-2005, 08:28 AM

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A little bit about me:

I am 25, single, because I play online poker for a living, I live in Columbus, OH, and I hate winter. One of my best friends lives in Irvine CA, and my little brother is probably going to transfer to UNLV next fall. I have several acquaintances from 2+2 at both places that I know would turn into strangers if I were to be around them more often. I have bounced back between the two selections at least 30 times in the last two months. So, I have decided to leave the decision to my fellow STTers

p.s. If there is any further information that you require to help me with my decision, post a question in this thread.

So without any further ado:

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revots33

10-28-2005, 09:41 AM

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I honestly can't for the life of me figure out why everybody in the world doesn't live in Vegas. I'm glad they don't, but I don't understand how they choose to live somewhere else.

I really, really don't get it.

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Irie, I'm curious why you think this. Having only visited Vegas a few times, I've often wondered why so many people are moving there. Not that it's not a fun city to visit - but what is it about LIVING there that makes it so great? I'm just not feeling it when I'm there.

I guess some people just love the desert, but I'll take the ocean anyday.

lacky

10-28-2005, 09:52 AM

If I were you I'd pick someplace really cheap. therefore I pick niether.

Steve

Unoriginalname

10-28-2005, 09:54 AM

Just remember to factor in the cost of living for whatever city you are thinking about moving to. Depending on what you pick, the cost of living difference could be HUGE. Some places in California, $1000 a month on rent will get you a shoe box sized apartment; other places you'd be living like a king with $1000 a month. I suggest you research this using cost of living estimation (http://www.cityrating.com/costofliving.asp) . Good luck in whatever you decide.

curtains

10-28-2005, 10:11 AM

Id die if I lived in Vegas, especially since I hate casinos.

zambonidrivr

10-28-2005, 10:42 AM

Beef, you can't leave Buckeye country.
Look, I am 31, with a freaking kid, and I ten table 8 hrs a night... make some coin, and every other month to wherever the next WSOP event is... and do it that way. Leaving Buckeye country is -EV imo.

rohjoh

10-28-2005, 12:10 PM

Las Vegas is a 40 minute flight for $129 from So CAl. When I was single I would go to Vegas 6-10 times a year. My best friend was going to Grad School at the time at UNLV. So if you have the money, I would pick So Cal, you get the best of both. And the guy who said a one bedroom is $1000, I would like to know where that is? Try $1500+ in Orange County for something nice. I am paying $3500 for a 3 bedroom house right now.

The Yugoslavian

10-28-2005, 12:40 PM

I'm about to move in with some cool guys for $375/month.

It's like more or less down the street from where Skipperbob lives, /images/graemlins/smirk.gif.

Yugoslav

10-28-2005, 12:48 PM

I voted SoCal - IF you can afford the cost of living, that is (my bro just moved to Vegas from there, he's paying $880 a month for 1100 Sq ft in LV, compared to $1700 a month for equivalent space near Irvine).

As others have pointed out, there are many more ways to enjoy non-poker life in SoCal. I believe this would make it much easier to get away from the games to de-stress and recharge when needed. And as rohjoh points out, it's a quick and cheap trip from SoCal to LV. If your brother does end up at UNLV, it seems that you could have the option to hang with him for a few weeks or more at a time to experience the Vegas games, then get away from Vegas "life" by going back to SoCal when you need to.

You may want to ditch the Grand Cherokee, though.

Good luck with your decision.

microbet

10-28-2005, 01:10 PM

I'm at work using Lynx and this would be a hassle. Someone please post a picture of Yugo's room (the one with the noose) and write the caption "You get what you pay for."

10-28-2005, 01:13 PM

I vote SoCal because Carson Palmer played there.

Irieguy

10-28-2005, 01:37 PM

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There's an ATM machine at the Hard Rock Casino, at the Northeast section of the casino floor that will let you withdraw $2,000 from a Neteller card at 11:59pm, and then another $2,000 at 12:01am.

If you have 2 Neteller cards, like any self-respecting SNGer, that means you can get your hands on $8K in cash in 2 minutes without talking to a human being.

And, of course, they pay it in Benjis.

Irieguy

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wtf I only have one neteller card. How do you go about getting two exactly?

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All you need is a bank account and an email. Those are both easy to get under any name you'd like.

One thing that amazes me on this forum is the fact that so many people don't seem to have checking accounts (not you, Curtains, the young blokes), as evidenced by how difficult it seems to be to send me a check for STTF-HUC.

As old-fashioned as it might seem, having a bank account is actually the best way to move large amounts of money from somewhere else into your hands.

Plus, you need one for each Neteller account if you want to be able to do everything instantly, and Neteller is the best way to move money around on line.

Irieguy

skipperbob

10-28-2005, 01:47 PM

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I'm about to move in with some cool guys for $375/month.

It's like more or less down the street from where Skipperbob lives, /images/graemlins/smirk.gif.

Yugoslav

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There is "NFW" that you & dudes you describe as "cool" will be allowed to live within 20 miles of my house /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Irieguy

10-28-2005, 01:53 PM

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I honestly can't for the life of me figure out why everybody in the world doesn't live in Vegas. I'm glad they don't, but I don't understand how they choose to live somewhere else.

I really, really don't get it.

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Irie, I'm curious why you think this. Having only visited Vegas a few times, I've often wondered why so many people are moving there. Not that it's not a fun city to visit - but what is it about LIVING there that makes it so great? I'm just not feeling it when I'm there.

I guess some people just love the desert, but I'll take the ocean anyday.

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It's so funny that people think that if you live in Vegas, you essentially live in a casino and whores walk around in your front yard.

Vegas is a great desert community with a thriving economy. It's just like Scottsdale or Palms Springs in terms of weather and housing, but you have the luxury of unlimited gourmet restaurants and some of the best entertainment in the world.

I'm not sure why everybody has the impression that you would be forced to become a low-life casino dweller destined to gamble away your life.

The majority of people who live here go to a casino less than once a month unless they work there. I spend less time in casinos now than I did when I lived in California.

Why live in Vegas?

1. It's sunny every day
2. No hurricanes, tornados, or earthquakes. The worst weather catastrophe you can face here is a sunburn.
3. Great food.
4. Great entertainment.
5. Everybody that lives here makes a lot of money because a lot of money moves through this town.
6. Everybody that comes here wants to party.
7. It's still half as expensive as SoCal.
8. No state income tax.

If I had a bajillion dollars I'd live in Malibu. Otherwise, Vegas baby.

Irieguy

The Yugoslavian

10-28-2005, 02:35 PM

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I'm about to move in with some cool guys for $375/month.

It's like more or less down the street from where Skipperbob lives, /images/graemlins/smirk.gif.

Yugoslav

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There is "NFW" that you & dudes you describe as "cool" will be allowed to live within 20 miles of my house /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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Dude, it's literally 1/2 a mile from your doorstep.

Right off of Cannon at Serreno then first house on your left on McKinley.

Ship it old man!

Yugoslav

stupidsucker

10-28-2005, 03:25 PM

Just for the sake of debate...

Why live in Vegas?

1. It's sunny every day

This is a misleading statement. Vegas has plenty of weather. It snows a little at least once a year. The winters get cold. It has a decent rainy season every year. Driving sucks in the rain in Vegas. Lots of mini-flooding.

2. No hurricanes, tornados, or earthquakes. The worst weather catastrophe you can face here is a sunburn.

Sun damage is always underestimated. Id rather die in a hurricane then of skin cancer. Even outside of Vegas you should wear sunblock most every day during summer months.

3. Great food.

I found Vegas restaurants to be run of the mill cookie cutter cafeterias. The casinos house some excellent fine dining places, but half of them are simply bogus overpriced food you can get anywhere. I found little character in any place to eat outside of a casino. Many experienced diners enjoy looking for quaint private places providing an atmosphere. There are 100 privately owned restaurants with character in the bay area for every one you might find in Vegas.

4. Great entertainment.

I have little to argue about this. Vegas has by far the most entertainment of any city I have ever lived. Every form of entertainment, and lots of it. Provided you have management over your spending/gambling habits...May I remind you that 90% plus of people do not posses the same will power a typical 2+2er has.

5. Everybody that lives here makes a lot of money because a lot of money moves through this town.

Taken literally this statement is funny, but... To say the economy is great and there is massive potential to do well in Vegas is very true.

6. Everybody that comes here wants to party.

This is just as much a reason as any for some people to not want to live in Vegas.

7. It's still half as expensive as SoCal.
Ug, no argument here.

8. No state income tax.
indeed indeed.

Amid Cent

10-28-2005, 03:41 PM

If you move to Southern California, make sure NOT to live in Orange County. Despite what you may see on TV, the OC is full of boring, white, conserative families.

Move North or South to LA or San Diego respectively. Stay out of the middle.

Mr_J

10-28-2005, 03:43 PM

I voted vegas by reputation alone. Everything I've heard or seen on tv?? Sounds like paradise.

johnnybeef

10-28-2005, 03:49 PM

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If you move to Southern California, make sure NOT to live in Orange County. Despite what you may see on TV, the OC is full of boring, white, conserative families.

Move North or South to LA or San Diego respectively. Stay out of the middle.

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I have friends already out in OC. But Irvine was pretty boring imo.

Messy_Jesse

10-28-2005, 04:25 PM

Here's the thing: how long are you relocating for? If its for a long time, then definitely Socal- more balanced life, great place, etc., etc...

If its for just a year or two, then I'd say Vegas. Endless parties, tons of poker, a great time for a few years...

Scuba Chuck

10-28-2005, 04:29 PM

Dude, how far is Oxnard from the LA casinos? I grew up in Camarillo, and I know it's a shot distance mileage-wise, but not so short time-wise into LA.

The Yugoslavian

10-28-2005, 04:40 PM

OC is the bomb, yo!

Irvine is very boring (I work there currently).

However, you can still live there with your friend, Beefycakes and still get out to Laguna or Newport or LA or whatever and pwn however you'd like.

Yugoslav

Slim Pickens

10-28-2005, 04:41 PM

LA and OC SoCal make me want to kill myself and everyone else there by detonating some sort of nuclear device and cracking the whole mess into the ocean. Inland sucks, basically. On the other hand, SB, SLO, SD, well, pretty much anywhere along the coast that's not LA are beautiful. I like living in Vegas. It's easy to live near where you work, and get around in general. Aside from three months of face-melting heat per year, the weather's pretty darn pleasant.

microbet

10-28-2005, 05:32 PM

I was even thinking saying NorCal is nicer, but you went too far and now I have to defend LA. It is nice all along the beach throughout almost all of OC and LA county. There are a lot of nice spots in LA (for example Sierra Madre) that you probably don't know about as well.

Regarding LV, too effin hot.

The bay area is very beautiful and I like the weather more than LA, but it has some serious faults as well.

Degen

10-28-2005, 05:36 PM

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ya like no poker

but as a mid-west guy he'll have a heckuva lot easier time gettin some nah nah up here than in LA

SlackerMcFly

10-28-2005, 05:38 PM

Crystal ball sees the 6 Month "JohnnyBeef Does Vegas" Progress Report as follows:

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I've been stabbed in a casino restroom and spent hundred's picking up women that turned out to be men on the strip....I've had sex with a female midget in a Palace Station elevator...I've been thrown outa more restaurants, casinos, and bars than SkipperBob..I've been in a military brig and ten civilian jails (including one in Sparks and one in Utah)....but all of that doesn't change the fact that Vegas is bad for certain people.....

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Apologies to SFB /images/graemlins/grin.gif

skipperbob

10-28-2005, 05:43 PM

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LA, but it has some serious faults as well

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Oh Jay: You're such a prankster; and a play on words as well /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Gramps

10-28-2005, 05:57 PM

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Umm....ever been to the Bay Area? It may not be "Commerce good," but the Oaks/San Pablo/Lucky Chances/Bay 101/Artichoke Joes/Grand, etc., etc., etc. you have places to play in live "live" (as in fishy "live") games whatever part of the Bay you live in.

People from the Midwest and NorCal seem to be on the same, more laid-back vibe as well.

Daliman

10-28-2005, 06:19 PM

valenzuela

10-28-2005, 06:32 PM

I honestly propose the following.( I ve done it twice, as college aproaches I will do it again)
Write all the categories that matter to you:
-family
-health
-friends
even trivial things like:
-sports
-tv

Then put a range of importance to each category.
For instance family will have much more than Tv( i hope...)
I like it from 20 to 1, decide a number for each category.
Ill do an example for you:
Should I eat pizza or mcDonald.
Taste:10
Money:5
lazyness factor:3

So i like pizza more...mmm 10 to 8, pizza up by 2
money, mcdonald is cheaper..5 to 3..mcdonalds ties it, however pizza is delivered to my house and mcdonald isnt ( at least here in chile)..ill tell u waht u can put this poll as a factor.

Degen

10-29-2005, 03:43 AM

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Umm....ever been to the Bay Area? It may not be "Commerce good," but the Oaks/San Pablo/Lucky Chances/Bay 101/Artichoke Joes/Grand, etc., etc., etc. you have places to play in live "live" (as in fishy "live") games whatever part of the Bay you live in.

People from the Midwest and NorCal seem to be on the same, more laid-back vibe as well.

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Its all LHE. I have yet to find a place with consistent hi-buy in NLHE games...yet i could go to commerce on any day of the year, at any hour i liked and have no less than 10 NLHE cash games to choose from.