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Hiding
10-27-2005, 10:44 PM
I just swapped an old windows 98 computer on my network for a new XP. The new computer sees my LAN connection, but cannot get to the internet. All firewalls are off, its a brand new computer/clean.
If anyone has any advice on what to look at I would appreciate it.

StevieG
10-27-2005, 11:17 PM
Is there any restriction on MAC addresses that are allowed to connect?

This might be if you connect directly to your cable or DSL modem and your service provider is expecting a certain network card to connect.

It might also be the case if you are using a router with MAC address control activated.

Hiding
10-28-2005, 12:02 AM
I think I understand. I am using the same router with a cloned MAC adress. This setup worked before the new computer. Basically I think there is something in XP I am missing.

Same cable, same router, with same settings, new computer running XP and no internet connection.

Thanks for the help

StevieG
10-28-2005, 12:16 AM
OK, so the router is cool going out, but what about the new XP machine talking to the router?

Do you have any kind of MAC address control turned on for the router? For instance, you may have done this with a wireless router to prevent unknown devices from jumping on your network.

You might also want to look at the Hardware settings under Start > Control Panel > System and make sure your network card is installed correctly and has current drivers.

Hiding
10-28-2005, 12:37 AM
I can ping the router.

As far as current drivers, I dunno. Its a dell, recieved it today

Hiding
10-28-2005, 08:42 PM
I can ping the web by name or IP(in DOS window), just no IE6 use, any suggestions?

StevieG
10-28-2005, 10:50 PM
Is there a proxy setting on your IE? From IE go to Tools > Internet Options. In the new window, click the Connections tab and then the LAN settings at the bottom. Try unchecking everything and seeing if this fixes it.

Hiding
10-29-2005, 12:59 AM
I appreciate all your help, and I looked at my settings.

I have IE working online, no dial up, with nothing checked in LAN.

I connected for about 3 seconds when refreshing earlier if that makes any difference.

I ran a winsock repair and am getting ready to call dell for whatever that may be worth.

StevieG
10-29-2005, 10:39 PM
Try bypassing the router. Can you get an IP address and connect to the Internet that way?

Hiding
10-30-2005, 12:55 AM
I can't connect direct without calling the cable company, I use the DHCP service from the router to asign the IP address to the computer and have cloned the registered computers MAC adress onto the router (which all works, or did on an old 98 machine)

I can see the non-working computer from the working computer, but not vice versa, still pings a web site and the router. Email connects and authorizes, then starts to download messages and times out.

I appreciate your feedback and help, its frustrating the hell out of me

StevieG
10-30-2005, 01:05 AM
On the new XP machine, what does the command ipconfig /all tell you?

Hiding
10-30-2005, 01:32 AM
okay.. Ipconfig /all gives me...(using shorthand a bit, written down and then typed)

Windows IP Configuration:

Host name....:Christy (computers name)
Primary DNS suffix.....:
Type.:hybrid
IP routing enabled.....:no
WINS proxy enabled..:no
DNS suffix search list.....:insightbb.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection

Connection specific DNS suffix...:insightbb.com
description....:Intel pro/100 ve network connection
physical adress....:(mac adress of machine)
DHCP enabled....:yes
autoconfiguration enabled.:yes
IP address...:192.168.01.101 (leased .04 yesterday switched up today, this computer is on .100)
Subnet mask......:255.255.255.0
Default Gateway.:192.168.0.1
DHCP server..:192.168.0.1
DNS server.:192.168.0.1

lease obtained today at 1:19 (reboot)
lease expires november 2nd

StevieG
10-30-2005, 08:47 AM
sure looks like you are geting an address, and you can ping addresses from the prompt, but IE fails to connect...

other computers using the router do not have this problem?

from Christy, try using ftp to reach a server like ftp.cac.psu.edu - do you get through?

What are the Windows firewall settings on Christy right now?

Hiding
10-30-2005, 12:07 PM
No other computers have this problem on the router, the old computer worked fine in the same port. I am trying to figure out how to do an ftp. I have telneted via port 80 (read that was a good way to test connection without IE) and it worked.

This happens with the firewall on or off.

StevieG
10-30-2005, 12:13 PM
What happens if you put an IP address into the address bar of IE? For instance, http://69.20.77.98?

Hiding
10-30-2005, 12:24 PM
same thing, nothing. If I type in a web adress it will report it found the site, just stalls after that.

Also, if I goto my router 192.168.0.1 I instantly get the login window, and enter the password and it stalls out trying to show my router home page.

Hiding
10-30-2005, 12:27 PM
ftp to the cac site, through IE

I get a server was reset message

MyMindIsGoing
10-30-2005, 12:32 PM
[ QUOTE ]
IP address...:192.168.01.101

[/ QUOTE ]

To be on the same subnet the tre first "colums" (or what ever you call them) must be equal. 192.168.01.x is not on the same subnet as 192.168.0.x if subnetmask is 255.255.255.0 so remove that '1' you got extra there and try again.

Hiding
10-30-2005, 12:39 PM
I wondered that too, this computer is on 192.168.01.100 and works. And I had that computer on 192.168.01.4 earlier with no progress. I will try switching it to .10 and see though.

Hiding
10-30-2005, 12:40 PM
And oops that was a typo it is on 192.168.0.101

Hiding
10-30-2005, 12:45 PM
I'm looking at my NIC details and the data is as follows:

packets sent 3861
packets recieved 20530
send errors 0
recieve errors 21721 ????????


is my NIC bad by chance?

MyMindIsGoing
10-30-2005, 12:58 PM
More likley the cable, try switching cable and give it a go.

Hiding
10-30-2005, 01:03 PM
alright, I'm off to but a new one I'll report back ASAP.

Hiding
10-30-2005, 01:42 PM
By god it was the cable!!!!!! Thank you both for the help. Out of curiosity why did the cable work on the old computer? Or did it get damaged being moved?



Either way thanks, thanks thanks!!!

MyMindIsGoing
10-30-2005, 01:46 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Or did it get damaged being moved?

[/ QUOTE ]

That would be my best guess yes. Nice that it now works again, glad I could help.