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Scuba Chuck
10-27-2005, 10:11 PM
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<font color="blue"> Hand 1 </font>
Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>

<font color="blue"> Hand 2 </font>
Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO (poster) checks</font>, <font color="red"> Hero folds... </font>

<font color="blue"> Hand 3 </font>
Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="red"> Hero calls </font>

<font color="blue"> Hand 4 </font>
Preflop: Hero is BB with 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="red"> Hero calls </font>
ArturiusX
10-27-2005, 10:16 PM
Hand 1: Need some stats on the 2 limpers. If they are loose, and you can play postflop, I like.

Hand 2: This is a terrible fold.

Hand 3: Easy call.

Hand 4: Need reads to make a decision. If you're really skilled postflop and knew your opponents, a call is ok. Otherwise, fold it.
Nick C
10-27-2005, 10:21 PM
Did CO raise in Hand 2? If so, I would fold also (although if CO knows what he's doing, he should be raising a wider range than usual, as a poster).

In Hands 1 and 3, I think limping and raising are both okay. I'd probably lean a little toward limping after just two limpers, at an 0.5/1 table where you're probably going to have to show down the best hand to win. (Also, you already have the Button. I'd be a little more inclined to raise from the CO.)

I'd call in Hand 4, like you did. I don't think folding would be awful or anything, though.
Scuba Chuck
10-27-2005, 10:25 PM
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Did CO raise in Hand 2? If so, I would fold also (although if CO knows what he's doing, he should be raising a wider range than usual, as a poster).


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That's pretty observant on your part. Yes CO did raise in the actual hand, and I folded. But I was interested in a response had he checked. Specifically, if there limpers in front of me.

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I'd call in Hand 4, like you did. I don't think folding would be awful or anything, though.


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Does the UTG limper affect this decision at all?
SoftcoreRevolt
10-27-2005, 10:27 PM
Hand one is more player dependant, here I'll usually limp, but I can see the reasoning for a raise.

Hand two I hope to god he raised, if he checked and you folded, that is super weak. Raise if no one else has.

Hand 3 I'm more likely to raise than limp.
tassie
10-28-2005, 04:31 AM
My two cents worth:

1. Personally I call but I think raise would be fair enough.
2. Good fold if behind a raise.
3. For me this is a definate limp. I find Q10 to be a trap hand (even sooted).
4. I am folding this even if I am in a loose mood.
Shillx
10-28-2005, 04:40 AM
Raise the 1st three. Fold the last. Nuff said.

Drunk Brad

Edit - Folding hand 2 is terrible. /images/graemlins/frown.gif
Nick C
10-28-2005, 05:18 AM
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Did CO raise in Hand 2? If so, I would fold also (although if CO knows what he's doing, he should be raising a wider range than usual, as a poster).


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That's pretty observant on your part. Yes CO did raise in the actual hand, and I folded. But I was interested in a response had he checked. Specifically, if there limpers in front of me.

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You shouldn't fold KQo from the Button versus a limper and one poster who checked. I would raise.

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I'd call in Hand 4, like you did. I don't think folding would be awful or anything, though.


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Does the UTG limper affect this decision at all?

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Yes. I would fold if it weren't for UTG's limp. It's possible I should fold anyway. (Make the hand 74s instead, and I would fold. Sometimes I'd fold the 75s, too. It would sort of depend on my mood.)
aK13
10-28-2005, 07:33 AM
I call Hand 4 at 6max a lot, FWIW.
car ramrod
10-28-2005, 09:21 AM
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I call Hand 4 at 6max a lot, FWIW.


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so do I. Do a lot of you fold it. I saw Shillx said fold (although he was drunk /images/graemlins/grin.gif), is that full or 6max, or does it matter?