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blackaces13
10-27-2005, 07:27 PM
Hand #1:

Empire 1/2.

UTG is a tight/solid player.

PREFLOP: I have Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif in the BB
UTG raises, 5 folds, SB calls, I 3 bet, UTG caps, SB folds, I call.

FLOP: K/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 5 BBs)
I bet, UTG raises, I call.

TURN: 2 /images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 6.5 BBs)
I check, UTG bets, I fold.




Hand #2:

Empire 1/2.

UTG+1 is an ABC multitabler.

PREFLOP: I have Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif UTG
I raise, UTG+1 3 bets, everyone folds, I call.

FLOP: K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 3.75 BBs)
I check, UTG+1 bets, I fold.
jaxUp
10-27-2005, 07:29 PM
Hand 1: nice

Hand 2: I play 99, TT, sometimes 88, AQs likes this if I'm villain
lautzutao
10-27-2005, 07:36 PM
Wow, I don't think I could fold hand 1. You have 2nd pair and a gutshot. I would have called this down.

Hand 2 I would have bet the flop. You putting this guy on AA, AK, KK, JJ for a 3-bet range and that's it? Come on, that's a little tight isn't it?
ArturiusX
10-27-2005, 07:38 PM
I like Hand 1.

Hand 2 requires some more grunt. Bet the flop, peel to a raise.
SoftcoreRevolt
10-27-2005, 07:55 PM
Cap flop in Hand 2 and bet the flop.
Aaron W.
10-27-2005, 07:57 PM
Wow... some people like folding in a 6.5 BB pot with 6 outs against UTG capper? That's a little tight, no?
blackaces13
10-27-2005, 08:05 PM
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Hand 2: I play 99, TT, sometimes 88, AQs likes this if I'm villain

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I tohught about the possibility of an underpair, and if I knew villain was very aggressive or I had been making a lot of folds at the table I may have been more stubborn. As it was I just felt that the chances were too high that I was beat and the river was so far away that reaching it OOP was too expensive.
lautzutao
10-27-2005, 08:05 PM
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Wow... some people like folding in a 6.5 BB pot with 6 outs against UTG capper? That's a little tight, no?

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Just thought that needs to be repeated for emphasis/images/graemlins/grin.gif
blackaces13
10-27-2005, 08:08 PM
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You putting this guy on AA, AK, KK, JJ for a 3-bet range and that's it? Come on, that's a little tight isn't it?

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For an ABC raising a UTG raise from UTG+1? No, sounds about right to me. Even if I inclue a few more hands to the list reaching the river will be very expensive OOP and not even close to worth it the small percentage of the time I'm best or suck out.

I'm doing very badly against any reasonable range of hands here, even if I beat a couple.
LoaferGee12
10-27-2005, 08:12 PM
In #1 I think I'm calling given that my 2 Q outs are likely clean as well as the gutshot outs. I'm also folding the river unimproved.

I like capping in #2 and then betting the flop. Plays different from there.