Wiped off the face of the earth

[Gamblor]

Iranian Leader: Wipe Out Israel (http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/10/26/ahmadinejad/)

Iran's new president has repeated a remark from a former ayatollah that Israel should be "wiped out from the map," insisting that a new series of attacks will destroy the Jewish state, and lashing out at Muslim countries and leaders that acknowledge Israel.

To those who consistently trumpet Israel's UN violations as any indication whatsoever of Israeli intransigence:

Any country that calls for the destruction of another country cannot be a member of an organization that ostensibly promotes peace.

Furthermore, that Iran is a member of the organization that produces and submits the ridiculous resolutions that Israel violates.

Finally, while every European and Western country will join in condemnation, not a single thing will be done about it.

[BluffTHIS!]

Be happy. Iran just gave Israel all the justification it needs to launch a pre-emptive nuclear attack against their multiple nuclear weapons development faciliities.

[TomCollins]

Can't we just nuke Israel AND Iran and just end this crap?

[daryn]

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Better yet. Stay out of it.

[Gamblor]

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i sincerely doubt any americans could pry their hands of a cheeseburger to press the button.

[ACPlayer]

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This disdain of America from Israel is seen all the way down from Sharon. I cant understand why we put up with it or for that matter why we keep sending them our tax dollars.

[HtotheNootch]

The entire Middle East needs a nuking.

[MMMMMM]

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This disdain of America from Israel is seen all the way down from Sharon. I cant understand why we put up with it or for that matter why we keep sending them our tax dollars.

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Yeah I agree and it's pretty baffling.

The main reason I favor supporting Israel is because her neighbors/enemies are so incredibly much WORSE. If her neighbors weren't such backwards psychos, I'd say cut the aid completely.

Maybe we should attach more conditions to the aid we give to Israel (and I don't mean vis-a-vis how Israel interacts with the Palestinians). I mean maybe they could do something to earn some of that aid from us.

[daryn]

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i sincerely doubt any americans could pry their hands of a cheeseburger to press the button.

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ugh

why don't we just sever all ties and see how israel does

could get ugly

[ACPlayer]

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The main reason I favor supporting Israel is because her neighbors/enemies are so incredibly much WORSE. If her neighbors weren't such backwards psychos, I'd say cut the aid completely.

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Support should be on principle, IMO. Specially active support.

This support has cost us far more than it has helped us.

[Gamblor]

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i sincerely doubt any americans could pry their hands of a cheeseburger to press the button.

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ugh

why don't we just sever all ties and see how israel does

could get ugly

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couldn't get any uglier than vietnam. America: keeping its nose in everyone else's business since 1776!

I actually have no animosity towards the US, it's a giant money basket waiting for someone smart enough to go and take it. And I like hamburgers. The smart people there are sickeningly brilliant, and rest are well beyond medically retarded.

[Gamblor]

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i sincerely doubt any americans could pry their hands of a cheeseburger to press the button

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This disdain of America from Israel is seen all the way down from Sharon. I cant understand why we put up with it or for that matter why we keep sending them our tax dollars.

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The only country on earth that gets any degree of (semi-justified) love from Israel is the United States. India gets a bit.

Anything that looks anything like America gets instant credibility in Israel. Every new bar is New York style. Every business name is a Hebrew transliteration of some random English word. Matrix restaurant. Mega supermarket. They even spell "supercenter" with hebrew letters. etc. etc.

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Anything that looks anything like New York or LA gets instant credibility in Israel. Every new bar is New York style. Every new business name is a Hebrew transliteration of some random English word. Matrix restaurant. Velvet Bar. Mega supermarket. etc. etc


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This kind of love Americans get every where. Try going to Bangkok for example, from Starbucks to MacDonalds or Sai Gon they have Mac Donalds knockoffs and coffee shops and ice cream shops like in NY. Or head off to the Northern Suburbs of Johannesburg, or to the glitzy areas of Delhi, or where ever.

Comments about taking hands of cheeseburgers - well!

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While aid is all well and good, its a direct result of the constant threat. When that threat ends I'll be the first to send that money back.

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I dont want you to send it back. I want to stop giving it, if we do, I suspect the threat will end (at least to us) -- and that is all I want our politicians to care about.

[vulturesrow]

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i sincerely doubt any americans could pry their hands of a cheeseburger to press the button

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This disdain of America from Israel is seen all the way down from Sharon. I cant understand why we put up with it or for that matter why we keep sending them our tax dollars.

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As seen by Israel's willingness to peddle state of the art military technology to just about anyone.

[ansky451]

The so called disdain of America by Israelis is non existent. Israel for the most part, is very pro American, more so than a lot of America's allies. In Canada, or England, I'm sure there are a lot more people who think the US is a major threat to world peace.

Israeli's may have "disdain" for the American government sometimes, like after invading Afghanistan, a country 5000 miles away from the United States, Colin Powell tells Israel to "show restraint" after a terrorist attack in Israel.

I think it's a joke that people in this thread are talking about "cutting ties" with Israel. I suppose it's not important to maintain a stable democracy in a region of the world that is a hotbed of despotism and religious fundamentalism. There is no deep seeded hate of America in Israel, like there is in Egypt- another country the US gives aid to.

[nicky g]

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i sincerely doubt any americans could pry their hands of a cheeseburger to press the button

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This disdain of America from Israel is seen all the way down from Sharon. I cant understand why we put up with it or for that matter why we keep sending them our tax dollars.

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The only country on earth that gets any degree of (semi-justified) love from Israel is the United States. India gets a bit.


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Apartheid South Africa got a bit too.

[tomdemaine]

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FYP

[andyfox]

On Friday, the Iranian Embassy in Moscow tried to soften the impact of Ahmadinejad's comment. "Mr. Ahmadinejad did not have any intention to speak in sharp terms and engage in a conflict," said the embassy, after international outrage over the remark.

Gee, what would he say if he did have the intention to speak in sharp terms. Quite a strange way the man has of not engaging in conflict.

[jaxmike]

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I dont want you to send it back. I want to stop giving it, if we do, I suspect the threat will end (at least to us) -- and that is all I want our politicians to care about.

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Do you really think that the ONLY reason that Islamofacists hate the US is because support Israel? Do you really think they would no longer hate us if we stopped giving Israel money?

[jaxmike]

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Can't we just nuke Israel AND Iran and just end this crap?

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i like it

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i sincerely doubt any americans could pry their hands of a cheeseburger to press the button.

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ugh

why don't we just sever all ties and see how israel does

could get ugly

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If you want Israel to destroy the Middle East, then that's a great idea.

[giddyyup]

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The entire Middle East needs a nuking.

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don't we still need our oil fix?

[giddyyup]

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Be happy. Iran just gave Israel all the justification it needs to launch a pre-emptive nuclear attack against their multiple nuclear weapons development faciliities.

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Isn't the kind of thing where one president calls for the destruction of another country considered "fighting words," or should Israel just laugh this off?

[BluffTHIS!]

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No because Israel's enemies only have to be massively successful once, and nuclear weapons would give them that ability. So since it is in Israel's interest not to allow this capability to come about, they should use the political cover of Iran's threats as a justification to the international community for doing so.

Since a democratic post-Saddam Iraq is no credible threat to Iran, the only two countries who are threats are the US and Israel. They could avoid that threat by discontinuing their nuclear weapons program and by not funding terrorist organizations as they have in Lebanon for years. But they don't want to do that. And now they have verbally escalated the stakes as well.

So Israel will take action in time no doubt and the US will give them access to satellite intelligence to aid them in that endeavour. And then of course all the idiot uneducated mullahs will cry jihad and the islamic masses will spill into the streets in the usual orgy of rioting and burnings of effigies. And as always, those ignorant masses will never ask the question of why don't the rich oil states spend their billions on improving the lot of the average person in the middle east instead of paying stipends to suicide bombers' families and such while the elite saudi princes live out their hedonistic self-absorbed lives in luxury.

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I consider my concept to be a it cant hurt might help situation. Cutting aid to Israel (and Egypt) cannot hurt us (except that the Jewish Lobby here would scream like stuck pigs) it can only help us in winning the hearts and minds of the Arabs (much more so than invading Iran would).

It is clear that the support hurts us. Where is the benefit?

[Gamblor]

utting aid to Israel (and Egypt) cannot hurt us (except that the Jewish Lobby here would scream like stuck pigs) it can only help us in winning the hearts and minds of the Arabs (much more so than invading Iran would).

Do you really want the hearts and minds of people with the morals and ethics of the Islamofascists?

Where is the benefit?

You perpetuate the democratic free society ideals.

[Jorge10]

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The main reason I favor supporting Israel is because her neighbors/enemies are so incredibly much WORSE. If her neighbors weren't such backwards psychos, I'd say cut the aid completely.



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Is this the only reason for the behind the existance of that crappy country? I dont get it, why does Israel exist?

[ACPlayer]

Of course we should want to win the hearts and minds of the arab and muslim peoples - heck on this goal I agree with Bush etc. They are a huge part of the planet and a gold mine for a potential market for our products (McDonalds is yet to be seen in Damascus).