PokerRoom (and skins) Points

[sharp63]

Since the points are directly tied to rake, does anyone know offhand the cost in rake per point? I hope that makes sense. If nobody knows off hand, I guess I could calculate it myself...I just don't feel like it /images/graemlins/smile.gif Thanks!

[sharp63]

n/m this was pretty easy to figure out. If someone else wants to post it, go ahead so I can make sure I did it right.

[lozen]

Well What did u calaculate

I think it is something like this...

.07 Points per .1$ raked
at 7x bonus 1 point = .143$ which comes to .1$ bonus per 1$ raked
But at a 10 person table isnt your MGR 1$/10= .1$?
This would be 100% of your rake back, that can't be right.
I don't know what I'm talking about. Sorry, first post ever.

[playersare]

yes for a 7x pokerroom bonus, it's 100% rakeback.

[Maulik]

pokeroom games are expensive with their rake structures.

[playersare]

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pokeroom games are expensive with their rake structures.

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yes but if you running a bonus or reload, all that gets funneled back to you anyway in the end. just don't play without a bonus there, that's all.

Would this imply that there contious reload bonus or signup that for instance Hollywood poker offers at 15x, would equal something like 50% rakeback?

I guess that the standard rakeback than for pokerroom is 50% with Bayou, offering it contiously. This is nice, their are just as much fish at this network as in PP and pokertracker works /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[MyTurn2Raise]

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pokeroom games are expensive with their rake structures.

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and the games have too many TAGS

[lozen]

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pokeroom games are expensive with their rake structures

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Not at 3/6 and 5/10

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and the games have too many TAGS

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I find there players weaker at 5/10 and 3/6

[MrMon]

I just got done doing the initial bonus at Pokerroom and going over the numbers, I wasn't all that impressed. Once I realized that playing at $1/$2 was going to take FOREVER, I switched to $2/$4. You build points nicely at that level, but the rake is pretty high. I went over the numbers and in some games it can be as high as 8%. I want to do a further analysis and compare it to Absolute, Party, and Stars, but my gut feel is their rake is excessive, the 40% reloads only bring it down to tolerable. I'm guessing my numbers will show I can do better elsewhere with bonus and unmentionable combos.

Quality of games is a totally different issue. I can generally tear up any $1/$2 game, not so here. Winnable, but rough. Could have just been varience though. The real story is $2/$4. Full table, there are some very good players. As mentioned above, a lot of TAGs. Pick your tables carefully. Short-handed is a different story. Potentially profitable, be prepared for some violent bankroll swings. In the 5-handed games, there are some of the craziest players I have ever seen. VP$IP of 80%+, bet or raise to the river on any two cards. They just don't care. Saw one guy go up $300 in one hour, only to lose it the next. Since they never fold, be prepared to lose a lot to river cards, even with what appear to be great hands. If you can isolate one of these maniacs, there's profit potential, get at a table with two, be prepared for a long night. (I can't prove collusion, but I think it's possible here, and I've never said that about anywhere else.)

In short, I got out just short of even with the bonus, plus the PSO signup bonus of a copy of Poker Academy. Given the nature of the rake and the Wild West atmosphere, I'm not sure if I'll be back. I think there are easier pickings, but might give it a go again with nothing better to do and a nice deposit bonus. (At least 40% 10x.) I'm just going to be very picky in my table selection. You have been warned.

[lozen]

I posted a question on the Points in the rakeback section as that word is tabboo in all others .

If you play 2/4 or less the rake kills you

[Maulik]

can I have an account with pokeroom & betonbet?

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can I have an account with pokeroom & betonbet?


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I do

[Pog0]

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Not at 3/6 and 5/10

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The rake at 3/6 is proportionally the same as 1/2 and 2/4.
5/10 and higher it gets better because the rake cap stays at $3.

[SoCalRugger]

But the 5/10 rake still got worse. Before, I believe it was $1 @ $20, $2 @ $40, $3 @ $60.

Now, it's $0.50 if there's a flop, $2 @ $20, $3 @ $60. So all those pots where everyone folds to a bet on the flop are now raked an extra buck.

[TXTiger]

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But the 5/10 rake still got worse. Before, I believe it was $1 @ $20, $2 @ $40, $3 @ $60.

Now, it's $0.50 if there's a flop, $2 @ $20, $3 @ $60. So all those pots where everyone folds to a bet on the flop are now raked an extra buck.

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Really? $2 @20. That's horrible. No wonder everyone was up in arms when they switched.