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DrSavage
10-26-2005, 08:25 PM
UTG is a terrible calling station, something like 75/5/0.7. Button is unknown. Anyone like?

PokerStars 10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) converter (http://www.fourthnut.com/cgi-bin/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Button calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, Button calls.

River: (8 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, planning to call 1 bet

Final Pot: 8 BB

7ontheline
10-26-2005, 08:43 PM
I like it but I bet the river since UTG is so passive. Button gets to check behind his worse hands and bet his better ones.

Luv2DriveTT
10-26-2005, 11:24 PM
The river check is fine. There is little value in a bet this time.

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Drontier
10-26-2005, 11:37 PM
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I like it but I bet the river since UTG is so passive. Button gets to check behind his worse hands and bet his better ones.

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ArturiusX
10-27-2005, 12:08 AM
Call me weak, but I check/fold. The button obviously has a hand better than mid pair mid kicker if hes hung around, king on the river is more ways we're beat. Heads up its an easy call.

ArturiusX
10-27-2005, 12:12 AM
Check/call is the worst though. We aren't inducing any draws to bet in a 3-way pot, so any bet we're almost certainly beat. If they call, we're probably beat too.

So Check-fold &gt;&gt;&gt; Bet-fold &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; check-call.

DrSavage
10-27-2005, 12:32 AM
What about preflop? I thought a complete was fine here but got told by a couple of people I respect that it's a mistake.

imported_leader
10-27-2005, 12:40 AM
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What about preflop? I thought a complete was fine here but got told by a couple of people I respect that it's a mistake.

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I don't think it's that bad against 2 limpers one of whom is terrible. It it's a mistake, it's not a big one.