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angst
10-26-2005, 04:12 PM
MP is 33/8/0.7 over 300 hands.
CO is 55/28/1.8 over 50 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls.

River: (12.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, CO folds.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

How is my line?

spydog
10-26-2005, 04:18 PM
I would 3-bet the flop and go from there. If you get raised on the turn by MP or CO then you can probably let it go.

jba
10-26-2005, 04:21 PM
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I would 3-bet the flop and go from there. If you get raised on the turn by MP or CO then you can probably let it go.

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my first thought too.

What do you put MP on? he's a bit passive dont you think?

kelvin474
10-26-2005, 04:22 PM
spydog, can we checkfold the turn UI if MP caps the flop?

kelvin474
10-26-2005, 04:23 PM
Yeah I think he has 99/JJ/QQ most of the time based on the preflop and flop action. I vote for JJ or 99 by the river.

jt1
10-26-2005, 04:24 PM
Why did you choose to stop and go? I prefer either calling down or calling and waiting to the river to re-take the lead or 3 betting the flop and leading until challenged or check raising the turn.

I don't like calling down or the calldown/river lead because your position is first and the CO is willing to gamble.

Check raising the turn is okay. 3 betting the flop is probably best due to the CO.

spydog
10-26-2005, 04:31 PM
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spydog, can we checkfold the turn UI if MP caps the flop?

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Well, he didn't cap preflop so I doubt he is on KK/AA. I'd be really surprised by a flop cap here. I think check-folding is probably correct, though.

RunDownHouse
10-26-2005, 04:31 PM
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Yeah I think he has 99/JJ/QQ most of the time based on the preflop and flop action. I vote for JJ or 99 by the river.

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I think you can rule out JJ or QQ based on the preflop action.

I also 3bet the flop. The only time I like the SNG is if I'm specifically trying to prevent a free card, usually against flush draws. Here I think you're ahead way too often, so either 3bet the flop or c/r the turn. I prefer 3betting the flop because a lot of times I'll freeze up and just call down if an over hits on the turn, and there are too many overs to your pair possible here.

angst
10-26-2005, 04:35 PM
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What do you put MP on?

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Why did you choose to stop and go?

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I was frightened by MP's raise on the flop. I'm always careful when passives wake up, obviously. He could quite possibly hold a 7. Since I only called the flop raise, I donked the turn for information when the Q fell. Since they both just called I was pretty sure I was ahead, with a very small (pre flop action) possibility of one of them holding JJ.

KDawgCometh
10-26-2005, 06:52 PM
Honestly, I'd venture just a call PF here. Being OOP in a four way raised pot generally sucks balls. I kinda like the stop n go more then straight up three betting it. We may be able to get him to incorrectly fold JJ here, and I highly doubt that QQ is around given the PF action.

HIs raise protects your hand for you. Three betting the flop also has its merits too, as I can see you being ahead here a good amount. Just because he raises only 8% of his hands, doesn't mean that he won't do weird ass [censored] when he does raise(meaning, I could see him turning up A8s)

angst
10-27-2005, 01:26 AM
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Yeah I think he has 99/JJ/QQ most of the time based on the preflop and flop action. I vote for JJ or 99 by the river.

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MP had 99.

kelvin474
10-27-2005, 01:54 AM
I think a 7 PFR quite possibly wouldn't cap JJ or QQ there.