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10-26-2005, 12:06 PM
Is this too risky for a call PF (bearing in mind that Hero would be in with a good chance to win afterwards with a big stack)?

NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Level:3 Blinds(25/50)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: UTG+1 ( $1270 )
Seat 3: MP1 ( $2253 )
Seat 4: CO ( $780 )
Seat 7: Button ( $445 )
Seat 8: Hero ( $1800 )
Seat 9: BB ( $657 )
Seat 10: UTG ( $795 )
Level:3 Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qc Qh ]
UTG folds.
UTG+1 folds.
MP1 folds.
CO folds.
Button folds.
Hero raises [175].
BB is all-In [607]
Hero calls [457].

tigerite
10-26-2005, 12:07 PM
No this is an easy call. You could just push in the first place too if you want. No way in hell I fold QQ here.

Nicholasp27
10-26-2005, 12:11 PM
easy call
you are big stack if u win and still have 1200 if u lose...u are ahead of his range here

gotta call

SonnyJay
10-26-2005, 12:11 PM
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Is this too risky for a call PF (bearing in mind that Hero would be in with a good chance to win afterwards with a big stack)?

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That's just not true. t1600 with 7 people left is not a shoe in for anything. Gotta call here, not close. If you lose you lose, but your hand's way too good.

-SonnyJay

Nicholasp27
10-26-2005, 12:17 PM
where did u get t1600 from?

hero already has t1800, he'll gain another 657 chips to be t2457 if he wins the hand with 6, not 7, opps left...that puts him as big stack, tho doesn't mean he can just walk over the table...

Karak567
10-26-2005, 12:46 PM
My chips beat him to the middle.

kitaristi0
10-26-2005, 01:01 PM
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My chips beat him to the middle.

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SonnyJay
10-26-2005, 01:26 PM
I think I misunderstood the OP's statement that
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(bearing in mind that Hero would be in with a good chance to win afterwards with a big stack)

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I took that to mean that he'd have a good chance to win if he folded and didn't make the "risky call."

Either way, you're still calling.

-SonnyJay

TWINUNO
10-26-2005, 01:37 PM
In a 10+1 with no reads in ever fold qq preflop just to big of a chance your dominating.

10-26-2005, 01:46 PM
General rule for the 10's absent of any player specific reads.

With smallish blinds
Call an all in with QQ Fold to an all in and a call with a good stack, but call with a marginal stack

RobGW
10-26-2005, 01:54 PM
IF you never fold QQ PF at a $10 table you would be correct 99% of the time. Furthermore, get in the habit of considering pot odds. The pot is ~$800 and its only $457 back to you. You have to call this.

10-27-2005, 04:28 AM
Thanks for the feedback.
Here's the end of the play:
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, 4s, Ah ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]
Hero shows [ Qc, Qh ] two pairs, queens and sevens.
BB shows [ Kd, Jd ] a pair of sevens.
Hero wins 1314 chips from the main pot with two pairs, queens and sevens.
BB finished in seventh place.
BB has left the table.