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10-26-2005, 02:12 AM
***** Hand History for Game 2933039947 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:16886506 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Wednesday, October 26, 02:06:36 EDT 2005
Table Table 67681 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 3: TTier1 ( $1265 )
Seat 4: tkesd ( $2065 )
Seat 5: DoubleTurds ( $490 )
Seat 7: Cramer34 ( $2440 )
Seat 8: bbsdad1 ( $360 )
Seat 9: Ryno620 ( $945 )
Seat 10: xbAbYbOoBoOx ( $435 )
Trny:16886506 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Ryno620 [ 5s 5d ]
DoubleTurds folds.
Cramer34 folds.
bbsdad1 folds.
Ryno620 is all-In [945]
xbAbYbOoBoOx folds.
TTier1 folds.
>You have options at Table 67173 Table!.
tkesd folds.
Ryno620 does not show cards.
Ryno620 wins 1170 chips


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***** Hand History for Game 2933042364 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:16886506 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Wednesday, October 26, 02:07:16 EDT 2005
Table Table 67681 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 3: TTier1 ( $1190 )
Seat 4: tkesd ( $1840 )
Seat 5: DoubleTurds ( $565 )
Seat 7: Cramer34 ( $2440 )
Seat 8: bbsdad1 ( $360 )
Seat 9: Ryno620 ( $1170 )
Seat 10: xbAbYbOoBoOx ( $435 )
Trny:16886506 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Ryno620 [ 8h 8s ]
bbsdad1 folds.
>You have options at Table 67173 Table!.
Ryno620 is all-In [1170]
>You have options at Table 67383 Table!.
xbAbYbOoBoOx folds.
TTier1 folds.
tkesd folds.
DoubleTurds folds.
Cramer34 folds.
Ryno620 does not show cards.
Ryno620 wins 1395 chips


Would you all push in both of these situations?
Wes ManTooth
10-26-2005, 02:17 AM
no and no
Sabrazack
10-26-2005, 02:21 AM
Whaddyamean NO? I push these hands easily, why wouldn't i?
10-26-2005, 02:52 AM
Yes and Yes. I would actually be hoping to be called on the second one. Why? I don't know.
10-26-2005, 03:10 AM
since you are uncertain of whether to push these very clear pushing hands, you are probably pushing WAY to few hands.

you should get yourself the nifty tool called SNG Power Tools that help you with exactly this, is this a good push or isnt it? it costs $80, but trust me, it will be worth it in the long run.
Scuba Chuck
10-26-2005, 05:40 AM
The first is clear. The second is less clear.
10-26-2005, 05:51 AM
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The first is clear. The second is less clear.

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i push on both easily...i wouldnt wanna get called....why is the second not a clear push.......i guess you could argue that having the blinds go through again wouldnt be that horrible....but its time to gamble a little....and 88 isnt horrible to gamble with in that situation....i think it would also depend how close it is from the next blind level
tigerite
10-26-2005, 06:16 AM
55 is an absolutely easy push. It's so obvious, I can't believe someone has even said "no". There is no range they can call with to stuff you up.

I thought 88 might be closer. But no it's the same. I'd also have shoved that in the game, but have thought at the time it might be a bit of a tighter decision, but on reflection it isn't.

Both clear pushes. Well played.
tigerite
10-26-2005, 06:18 AM
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The first is clear. The second is less clear.

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That's actually not true, it was my first thought too, but no range in SNGPT can prevent you profiting from this push with 88.
Scuba Chuck
10-26-2005, 06:35 AM
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The first is clear. The second is less clear.

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That's actually not true, it was my first thought too, but no range in SNGPT can prevent you profiting from this push with 88.

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Yep, you caught me. Not often UTG+1 is a great pushing hand.

Since I have SGA open, I replugged some other data in. I have definately been folding too much. I can't believe it shows that pushing 33 from here is also +$EV.

I also started adjusting the stack of hero as well (taking chips from the bigstack). By just choosing +1$EV decisions, here are the results:

1320: 77 is good
1470: 88 is good
1620: 99 is good
10-26-2005, 06:43 AM
you're a real big tymer.
zambonidrivr
10-26-2005, 09:10 AM
i am pushing any 2 in the first case;
the second is more iffy, but i play it the same.

too bad your running bad.
tigerite
10-26-2005, 09:27 AM
Pushing any two in the first case is simply not right.
The second one as I've said is mathematically unexploitable.
crew
10-26-2005, 09:37 AM
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Would you all push in both of these situations?

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Yes. But I love to push.