Officla PLO Deepstack Thread

[benneh]

7.5k at break after sitting out for the first level.

Anyone else in?

[TwistedEcho]

6600, i have no idea what im doing /images/graemlins/smile.gif

$7.7K at 1st break.

[pfkaok]

deep stacked omaha is fun. esp when i run good. but i do enjoy playing when you can bet on every round. the game is more interesting.

12,270 for me. so pretty decent shape.

[Yuv]

people are so stupid. and lucky.

PokerStars Game #2892470230: Tournament #14165396, Omaha Pot Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2005/10/25 - 19:30:07 (ET)
Table '14165396 45' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: bohoss (3700 in chips)
Seat 2: Yuv21 (7995 in chips)
Seat 3: P.D.Q. (7870 in chips)
Seat 4: foshio (5745 in chips)
Seat 5: tprimo17 (6326 in chips)
Seat 6: tracer3232 (3830 in chips)
Seat 7: Betalot (4700 in chips)
Seat 8: mbchris (4991 in chips)
Seat 9: john33 (1828 in chips)
P.D.Q.: posts small blind 25
foshio: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Yuv21 [5d Ac Ah Qs]
tprimo17: calls 50
tracer3232: folds
Betalot: calls 50
mbchris: folds
john33: folds
bohoss: raises 225 to 275
Yuv21: raises 725 to 1000
P.D.Q.: folds
foshio: folds
tprimo17: folds
Betalot: folds
bohoss: raises 2175 to 3175
Yuv21: raises 2175 to 5350
bohoss: calls 525 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [9h 4h 2h]
*** TURN *** [9h 4h 2h] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [9h 4h 2h Jc] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bohoss: shows [Kh Qc Jh Qd] (a flush, King high)
Yuv21: shows [5d Ac Ah Qs] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
bohoss collected 7575 from pot

[TomHimself]

why are you trying to go broke there w/ AA, this early?

[Yuv]

Why not get my money in when i'm a 70-30 fav?

Deep stack or not, he raised, I re-raised, he popped it again. i'm not folding.

[TomHimself]

i dont know much about omaha, but i guess i can see a get big stack early or bust cuz these things take forever.

u were a 70/30 fav but if he has KQJTs hes around 44% to win same with KKJJs and wit JJTTs hes even money practically

[Firefly]

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1301585
pokenum -mc 500000 -o ac as qs 5d - kh jh qc qd
Omaha Hi: 500000 sampled boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Qs Ac 5d 357431 71.49 141703 28.34 866 0.17 0.716
Qc Qd Kh Jh 141703 28.34 357431 71.49 866 0.17 0.284

[Yuv]

So? I still don't see how i can get away from that. If he wants to get all his money in when I have AA, I can't say no.

He's a moron for re-poping when I obviously have him beat at that point. Either way, I can't fold, it's way too weak tight to flat call a raise when I have position and a better hand. I really can't see anything I did wrong there, other than getting outdrawn.

[TomHimself]

i would've just smoothcalled pf, but i understand ur point. once he repops it im not folding too

[Yuv]

PokerStars Game #2892700930: Tournament #14165396, Omaha Pot Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2005/10/25 - 19:56:42 (ET)
Table '14165396 45' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: bohoss (7650 in chips)
Seat 2: Yuv21 (5270 in chips)
Seat 3: P.D.Q. (7270 in chips)
Seat 4: foshio (5170 in chips)
Seat 5: tprimo17 (6398 in chips)
Seat 6: tracer3232 (3580 in chips)
Seat 7: Betalot (6825 in chips)
Seat 8: mbchris (4416 in chips)
Seat 9: john33 (406 in chips)
tprimo17: posts small blind 50
tracer3232: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Yuv21 [7d Qd 8d Qh]
Betalot: folds
mbchris: calls 100
john33: raises 100 to 200
bohoss: folds
Yuv21: calls 200
P.D.Q.: calls 200
foshio: folds
tprimo17: folds
tracer3232: calls 100
mbchris: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [As 2h Qs]
tracer3232: checks
mbchris: checks
john33: bets 200
Yuv21: raises 800 to 1000
P.D.Q.: calls 1000
tracer3232: folds
mbchris: folds
john33: calls 6 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [As 2h Qs] [4h]
Yuv21: bets 1200
P.D.Q.: calls 1200
*** RIVER *** [As 2h Qs 4h] [Ks]

[TwistedEcho]

why not bet more on the turn?

[Yuv]

Probably should have, but I wanted to extract as much as possible and I feared he was going to fold to a big bet.

[TwistedEcho]

I dunno, im always paranoid in omaha that im beat, and the river could get nasty (Ks is a horrible card imo). On my table at least, players are calling most bets with a draw, so i'd make him pay on the turn if he wanted to see the river.

[Yuv]

15.5k.

I'll probably bust to a 3 high flush draw, but I gotta say, I really like PLO.

[BlackAces]

You don't want to try to extract there. There's too many draws. Pot it on the turn and make him pay to draw.

[TwistedEcho]

9k, still not sure what im doing... Playing anything that looks pretty and if it hits the board i keep playing it. Seems to work out ok so far.

10.5K at 2nd break. I think i'm playing too loose as i've been in 48 out of 102 hands.

[Yuv]

I'm at 30%, but I started at like 100% for the first hour /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[TwistedEcho]

im at 35%

Pots won at showdown - 6 of 7 (85%)
Pots won without showdown - 3

i fold lots postflop /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Yuv]

[ QUOTE ]
Pots won at showdown - 6 of 7 (85%)
Pots won without showdown - 3

i fold lots /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I just realized i'm a moron and i pasted the wrong stats.

This looks so terrible, it's amazing i'm above average.

During current Omaha session you were dealt 87 hands and saw flop:
- 10 out of 10 times while in big blind (100%)
- 9 out of 10 times while in small blind (90%)
- 30 out of 67 times in other positions (44%)
- a total of 49 out of 87 (56%)
Pots won at showdown - 8 of 17 (47%)
Pots won without showdown - 5

[benneh]

5k at second break. 5 straights have been busted on the river for me. bleh.

[TwistedEcho]

yeah i replied to your post, then noticed it went and was like wtf... my post looks so random now :P

[benneh]

i'm out. missed the nut flush in a HUUGE pot that owuld have put me near the top.

[TwistedEcho]

booo... im out. Crazy likes to think she owns the table and plays good omaha, im not convinced. Ah well, always next week.

Dealt to TwistedEcho [7d 9s As Ad]
maverick5151: folds
crazygrace: calls 200
RiverReaper: folds
Trader Tom: calls 200
xo*Kisses*xo: folds
TwistedEcho: raises 900 to 1100
pw001706: folds
mmdog: folds
BeL0WaB0Ve: folds
crazygrace: calls 900
Trader Tom: folds
*** FLOP *** [5c Jh 7h]
crazygrace: bets 2700
TwistedEcho: raises 5930 to 8630 and is all-in
crazygrace: calls 5840 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [5c Jh 7h] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [5c Jh 7h 8h] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
crazygrace: shows [Qs 4d Th Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
TwistedEcho: shows [7d 9s As Ad] (two pair, Nines and Sevens)
crazygrace collected 19780 from pot

[Yuv]

20k. slow hour. slow tourny. this will never end.

[Yuv]

okerStars Game #2893668748: Tournament #14165396, Omaha Pot Limit - Level VII (150/300) - 2005/10/25 - 21:39:30 (ET)
Table '14165396 45' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: bohoss (12750 in chips)
Seat 2: Yuv21 (21692 in chips)
Seat 4: foshio (4150 in chips)
Seat 5: Marcus57 (48694 in chips)
Seat 6: florman46 (21445 in chips)
Seat 7: Falcor55 (24665 in chips)
Seat 8: Sealed Deck (19570 in chips)
Seat 9: AAeddieAA (22555 in chips)
foshio: posts small blind 150
Marcus57: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Yuv21 [3d 2d 6c 6s]
florman46: folds
Falcor55: folds
Sealed Deck: folds
AAeddieAA: calls 300
bohoss: calls 300
Yuv21: calls 300
foshio: calls 150
Marcus57: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c 6d Ac]
foshio: bets 1500
Marcus57: calls 1500
AAeddieAA: folds
bohoss: raises 6000 to 7500

[sketchy1]

i am still in, 4th break. 65 left avg 30k i have 37.4k 22/65

[Yuv]

33k, still 65 left (36 ITM).

[Yuv]

MOTHEFUKLSADKL%$#@&$(#&@$(&FJDSALFAJFLSADJ!!!!!!!! !

PokerStars Game #2894619861: Tournament #14165396, Omaha Pot Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2005/10/25 - 23:12:43 (ET)
Table '14165396 45' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: Yuv21 (34427 in chips)
Seat 3: DexterCain (34450 in chips)
Seat 4: JQXZBlank (10260 in chips)
Seat 5: Marcus57 (62264 in chips)
Seat 6: florman46 (30645 in chips)
Seat 7: Falcor55 (30365 in chips)
Seat 8: starray (48782 in chips)
Seat 9: thegrumpyone (39147 in chips)
Yuv21: posts small blind 400
DexterCain: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Yuv21 [5s 2c Qs 3d]
JQXZBlank: calls 800
Marcus57: calls 800
florman46: folds
Falcor55: calls 800
starray: calls 800
thegrumpyone: folds
Yuv21: calls 400
DexterCain: checks
*** FLOP *** [2h Ad 4s]
Yuv21: bets 2400
DexterCain: folds
JQXZBlank: folds
Marcus57: raises 2400 to 4800
Falcor55: calls 4800
starray: folds
Yuv21: raises 19200 to 24000
Marcus57: calls 19200
Falcor55: folds
*** TURN *** [2h Ad 4s] [7d]
Yuv21: bets 9627 and is all-in
jube55 is connected
Marcus57: calls 9627
*** RIVER *** [2h Ad 4s 7d] [As]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Yuv21: shows [5s 2c Qs 3d] (a straight, Ace to Five)
Marcus57: shows [2s 5c 2d 5h] (a full house, Deuces full of Aces)
Falcor55 said, "fffffffffffffffffffffffff"
Marcus57 collected 76854 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 76854 | Rake 0
Board [2h Ad 4s 7d As]
Seat 2: Yuv21 (small blind) showed [5s 2c Qs 3d] and lost with a straight, Ace to Five
Seat 3: DexterCain (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: JQXZBlank folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Marcus57 showed [2s 5c 2d 5h] and won (76854) with a full house, Deuces full of Aces
Seat 6: florman46 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Falcor55 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: starray folded on the Flop
Seat 9: thegrumpyone (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[DJ Sensei]

[ QUOTE ]
okerStars Game #2893668748: Tournament #14165396, Omaha Pot Limit - Level VII (150/300) - 2005/10/25 - 21:39:30 (ET)
Table '14165396 45' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: bohoss (12750 in chips)
Seat 2: Yuv21 (21692 in chips)
Seat 4: foshio (4150 in chips)
Seat 5: Marcus57 (48694 in chips)
Seat 6: florman46 (21445 in chips)
Seat 7: Falcor55 (24665 in chips)
Seat 8: Sealed Deck (19570 in chips)
Seat 9: AAeddieAA (22555 in chips)
foshio: posts small blind 150
Marcus57: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Yuv21 [3d 2d 6c 6s]
florman46: folds
Falcor55: folds
Sealed Deck: folds
AAeddieAA: calls 300
bohoss: calls 300
Yuv21: calls 300
foshio: calls 150
Marcus57: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c 6d Ac]
foshio: bets 1500
Marcus57: calls 1500
AAeddieAA: folds
bohoss: raises 6000 to 7500

[/ QUOTE ]

Looks like a pretty easy fold to me, best case you're against a flush draw, worse case you're against a higher set. Maybe a flush+straight draw, maybe a set+draw. In any case, bottom set doesnt look so good on this board with that action.

[benneh]

thats an easy laydown