55s: I do not know if I am running horribly or playing like a donk...

[Karak567]

So here are some of my more recent bust out hands, let me know what you think.

25 buy-in drop right now. I know SNGPT will tell me ICM wise whether it is right, but I find at the 55s often times personal views on pushes is also important. If you want to help me out, just reply and let me know. Thanks.

***** Hand History for Game 2925105942 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843560 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 15:58:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 67558 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 3: hero ( $1620 )
Seat 6: LuckyCony505 ( $1155 )
Seat 5: DLPosner ( $1165 )
Seat 4: VALYE ( $2340 )
Seat 9: shawnjawn ( $1705 )
Seat 2: Wutsup2 ( $440 )
Seat 8: AtlBrvs4Life ( $1575 )
Trny:16843560 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Td Qc ]
VALYE folds.
DLPosner folds.
LuckyCony505 folds.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
shawnjawn raises [300].
Wutsup2 folds.
hero calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 8d, 5h ]
hero checks.
shawnjawn bets [150].
>You have options at Table 66930 Table!.
hero is all-In [1320]

#Game No : 2925091206
***** Hand History for Game 2925091206 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843497 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, October 24, 15:54:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 67518 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: Gumshoe1983 ( $1100 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $950 )
Seat 5: dux310 ( $1925 )
Seat 7: basit_check ( $1685 )
Seat 8: nickianthony ( $2235 )
Seat 9: hero ( $865 )
Seat 10: xgigi ( $1240 )
Trny:16843497 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 5d Ks ]
>You have options at Table 67741 Table!.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
dux310 folds.
basit_check folds.
nickianthony folds.
>You have options at Table 66930 Table!.
>You have options at Table 67520 Table!.
hero is all-In [865]

#Game No : 2925134685
***** Hand History for Game 2925134685 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843523 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, October 24, 16:05:30 EDT 2005
Table Table 67520 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: davidkimdh ( $686 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $785 )
Seat 3: hero ( $1782 )
Seat 5: crizz111 ( $2860 )
Seat 8: mmorton19 ( $3887 )
Trny:16843523 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Qs Kd ]
mmorton19 folds.
davidkimdh folds.
AtlBrvs4Life is all-In [785]
hero is all-In [1632]

#Game No : 2925136332
***** Hand History for Game 2925136332 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843523 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, October 24, 16:05:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 67520 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: davidkimdh ( $686 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $1870 )
Seat 3: hero ( $997 )
Seat 5: crizz111 ( $2560 )
Seat 8: mmorton19 ( $3887 )
Trny:16843523 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 4d 8h ]
davidkimdh folds.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
hero is all-In [997]

#Game No : 2925065472
***** Hand History for Game 2925065472 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843521 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Monday, October 24, 15:48:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 67557 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: cbkaiyu ( $755 )
Seat 2: hero ( $900 )
Seat 3: AtlBrvs4Life ( $980 )
Seat 4: postmark1969 ( $570 )
Seat 5: TexasJurdy ( $740 )
Seat 6: BuillGates ( $810 )
Seat 7: uwwboy ( $1035 )
Seat 8: shawnie26 ( $2355 )
Seat 9: biro1830 ( $835 )
Seat 10: Be__Bee ( $1020 )
Trny:16843521 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 8d 8c ]
TexasJurdy: nice hand
Be__Bee folds.
shawnie26: ty
cbkaiyu calls [50].
>You have options at Table 67811 Table!.
shawnie26: bbs
hero raises [200].
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
postmark1969 folds.
TexasJurdy folds.
BuillGates folds.
TexasJurdy: huh
uwwboy raises [425].
shawnie26 folds.
biro1830 folds.
cbkaiyu folds.
hero is all-In [700]

#Game No : 2925124399
***** Hand History for Game 2925124399 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843597 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 16:02:59 EDT 2005
Table Table 67682 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 8: hero ( $590 )
Seat 3: AtlBrvs4Life ( $965 )
Seat 2: Red_Orchid ( $3365 )
Seat 4: Limeguy007 ( $400 )
Seat 6: Spewgene ( $1985 )
Seat 1: Drethen ( $965 )
Seat 5: TomA318 ( $1730 )
Trny:16843597 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 5h 6h ]
Limeguy007 folds.
TomA318 folds.
Spewgene folds.
hero is all-In [590]

#Game No : 2925116652
***** Hand History for Game 2925116652 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843590 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 16:01:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 67741 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: Vinny_Chenz ( $1265 )
Seat 3: hero ( $725 )
Seat 2: Gitrdun1time ( $995 )
Seat 7: Red_Orchid ( $2140 )
Seat 10: longballjy ( $3065 )
Seat 5: CRASHFLAME ( $1810 )
Trny:16843590 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 2h Jd ]
Red_Orchid folds.
longballjy folds.
Gitrdun1time folds.
hero is all-In [725]

[Bigwig]

[ QUOTE ]
***** Hand History for Game 2925105942 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843560 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 15:58:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 67558 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 3: hero ( $1620 )
Seat 6: LuckyCony505 ( $1155 )
Seat 5: DLPosner ( $1165 )
Seat 4: VALYE ( $2340 )
Seat 9: shawnjawn ( $1705 )
Seat 2: Wutsup2 ( $440 )
Seat 8: AtlBrvs4Life ( $1575 )
Trny:16843560 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Td Qc ]
VALYE folds.
DLPosner folds.
LuckyCony505 folds.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
shawnjawn raises [300].
Wutsup2 folds.
hero calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 8d, 5h ]
hero checks.
shawnjawn bets [150].
>You have options at Table 66930 Table!.
hero is all-In [1320]

[/ QUOTE ]

The subject of your other thread. As I said there, with a stack like this, I fold.

[ QUOTE ]
#Game No : 2925091206
***** Hand History for Game 2925091206 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843497 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, October 24, 15:54:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 67518 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: Gumshoe1983 ( $1100 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $950 )
Seat 5: dux310 ( $1925 )
Seat 7: basit_check ( $1685 )
Seat 8: nickianthony ( $2235 )
Seat 9: hero ( $865 )
Seat 10: xgigi ( $1240 )
Trny:16843497 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 5d Ks ]
>You have options at Table 67741 Table!.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
dux310 folds.
basit_check folds.
nickianthony folds.
>You have options at Table 66930 Table!.
>You have options at Table 67520 Table!.
hero is all-In [865]

[/ QUOTE ]

I would move all-in here if the blinds were due to go up before I reached the button again. This one is borderline, but most likely, moving in is the right play.

[ QUOTE ]
#Game No : 2925134685
***** Hand History for Game 2925134685 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843523 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, October 24, 16:05:30 EDT 2005
Table Table 67520 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: davidkimdh ( $686 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $785 )
Seat 3: hero ( $1782 )
Seat 5: crizz111 ( $2860 )
Seat 8: mmorton19 ( $3887 )
Trny:16843523 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Qs Kd ]
mmorton19 folds.
davidkimdh folds.
AtlBrvs4Life is all-In [785]
hero is all-In [1632]

[/ QUOTE ]

I think this is fine.

[ QUOTE ]
#Game No : 2925136332
***** Hand History for Game 2925136332 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843523 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, October 24, 16:05:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 67520 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: davidkimdh ( $686 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $1870 )
Seat 3: hero ( $997 )
Seat 5: crizz111 ( $2560 )
Seat 8: mmorton19 ( $3887 )
Trny:16843523 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 4d 8h ]
davidkimdh folds.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
hero is all-In [997]

[/ QUOTE ]

This one I don't like. I'd fold. It's just too awful a hand, you've got two left to act, and a very small amount of fold equity.

[ QUOTE ]
#Game No : 2925065472
***** Hand History for Game 2925065472 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843521 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Monday, October 24, 15:48:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 67557 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: cbkaiyu ( $755 )
Seat 2: hero ( $900 )
Seat 3: AtlBrvs4Life ( $980 )
Seat 4: postmark1969 ( $570 )
Seat 5: TexasJurdy ( $740 )
Seat 6: BuillGates ( $810 )
Seat 7: uwwboy ( $1035 )
Seat 8: shawnie26 ( $2355 )
Seat 9: biro1830 ( $835 )
Seat 10: Be__Bee ( $1020 )
Trny:16843521 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 8d 8c ]
TexasJurdy: nice hand
Be__Bee folds.
shawnie26: ty
cbkaiyu calls [50].
>You have options at Table 67811 Table!.
shawnie26: bbs
hero raises [200].
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
postmark1969 folds.
TexasJurdy folds.
BuillGates folds.
TexasJurdy: huh
uwwboy raises [425].
shawnie26 folds.
biro1830 folds.
cbkaiyu folds.
hero is all-In [700]

[/ QUOTE ]

WTF are you doing here? This is very donk. Limp with 88 in this spot. Folding is better than raising.

[ QUOTE ]
#Game No : 2925124399
***** Hand History for Game 2925124399 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843597 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 16:02:59 EDT 2005
Table Table 67682 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 8: hero ( $590 )
Seat 3: AtlBrvs4Life ( $965 )
Seat 2: Red_Orchid ( $3365 )
Seat 4: Limeguy007 ( $400 )
Seat 6: Spewgene ( $1985 )
Seat 1: Drethen ( $965 )
Seat 5: TomA318 ( $1730 )
Trny:16843597 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 5h 6h ]
Limeguy007 folds.
TomA318 folds.
Spewgene folds.
hero is all-In [590]

[/ QUOTE ]

Again, I don't like it. Not with your stack. You want better cards.

[ QUOTE ]
#Game No : 2925116652
***** Hand History for Game 2925116652 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843590 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 16:01:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 67741 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: Vinny_Chenz ( $1265 )
Seat 3: hero ( $725 )
Seat 2: Gitrdun1time ( $995 )
Seat 7: Red_Orchid ( $2140 )
Seat 10: longballjy ( $3065 )
Seat 5: CRASHFLAME ( $1810 )
Trny:16843590 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 2h Jd ]
Red_Orchid folds.
longballjy folds.
Gitrdun1time folds.
hero is all-In [725]

[/ QUOTE ]

Eh, don't like this one either.

[axeshigh]

QT: I fold this every time preflop unless the minraiser has really been abusing the move lately (and then I would push instead of call).
K5: easy push.
KQ: I'd probably let this go because you're in real trouble if you lose the hand and KQ sucks and there are 2 short stacks.
48: you have minimal FE so I'd wait for a better hand, then push any 2 utg if all else fails.
88: I'd limp behind and fold to a raise, definitely fold to a small reraise like that.
56: No idea why you're pushing 56 in MP.
2J: I'd push junk like that from SB but not from button.

[zambonidrivr]

I am not going to comment on indivudal hands becasue there are 4q30574082564 of them, but in general I have 2 observations.

1. You are calling raises and pushes with marginal holdings... i would rather push any 2 against a stack than make the calls your making.
2. It appears you are waiting too long to shove.... with not much FE left. I would begin to make moves earlier in the tourney.

[pooh74]

[ QUOTE ]
So here are some of my more recent bust out hands, let me know what you think.

25 buy-in drop right now. I know SNGPT will tell me ICM wise whether it is right, but I find at the 55s often times personal views on pushes is also important. If you want to help me out, just reply and let me know. Thanks.

***** Hand History for Game 2925105942 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843560 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 15:58:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 67558 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 3: hero ( $1620 )
Seat 6: LuckyCony505 ( $1155 )
Seat 5: DLPosner ( $1165 )
Seat 4: VALYE ( $2340 )
Seat 9: shawnjawn ( $1705 )
Seat 2: Wutsup2 ( $440 )
Seat 8: AtlBrvs4Life ( $1575 )
Trny:16843560 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Td Qc ]
VALYE folds.
DLPosner folds.
LuckyCony505 folds.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
shawnjawn raises [300].
Wutsup2 folds.
hero calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 8d, 5h ]
hero checks.
shawnjawn bets [150].
>You have options at Table 66930 Table!.
hero is all-In [1320]

#Game No : 2925091206
***** Hand History for Game 2925091206 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843497 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, October 24, 15:54:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 67518 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: Gumshoe1983 ( $1100 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $950 )
Seat 5: dux310 ( $1925 )
Seat 7: basit_check ( $1685 )
Seat 8: nickianthony ( $2235 )
Seat 9: hero ( $865 )
Seat 10: xgigi ( $1240 )
Trny:16843497 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 5d Ks ]
>You have options at Table 67741 Table!.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
dux310 folds.
basit_check folds.
nickianthony folds.
>You have options at Table 66930 Table!.
>You have options at Table 67520 Table!.
hero is all-In [865]

#Game No : 2925134685
***** Hand History for Game 2925134685 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843523 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, October 24, 16:05:30 EDT 2005
Table Table 67520 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: davidkimdh ( $686 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $785 )
Seat 3: hero ( $1782 )
Seat 5: crizz111 ( $2860 )
Seat 8: mmorton19 ( $3887 )
Trny:16843523 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Qs Kd ]
mmorton19 folds.
davidkimdh folds.
AtlBrvs4Life is all-In [785]
hero is all-In [1632]

#Game No : 2925136332
***** Hand History for Game 2925136332 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843523 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, October 24, 16:05:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 67520 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: davidkimdh ( $686 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $1870 )
Seat 3: hero ( $997 )
Seat 5: crizz111 ( $2560 )
Seat 8: mmorton19 ( $3887 )
Trny:16843523 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 4d 8h ]
davidkimdh folds.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
hero is all-In [997]

#Game No : 2925065472
***** Hand History for Game 2925065472 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843521 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Monday, October 24, 15:48:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 67557 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: cbkaiyu ( $755 )
Seat 2: hero ( $900 )
Seat 3: AtlBrvs4Life ( $980 )
Seat 4: postmark1969 ( $570 )
Seat 5: TexasJurdy ( $740 )
Seat 6: BuillGates ( $810 )
Seat 7: uwwboy ( $1035 )
Seat 8: shawnie26 ( $2355 )
Seat 9: biro1830 ( $835 )
Seat 10: Be__Bee ( $1020 )
Trny:16843521 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 8d 8c ]
TexasJurdy: nice hand
Be__Bee folds.
shawnie26: ty
cbkaiyu calls [50].
>You have options at Table 67811 Table!.
shawnie26: bbs
hero raises [200].
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
postmark1969 folds.
TexasJurdy folds.
BuillGates folds.
TexasJurdy: huh
uwwboy raises [425].
shawnie26 folds.
biro1830 folds.
cbkaiyu folds.
hero is all-In [700]

#Game No : 2925124399
***** Hand History for Game 2925124399 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843597 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 16:02:59 EDT 2005
Table Table 67682 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 8: hero ( $590 )
Seat 3: AtlBrvs4Life ( $965 )
Seat 2: Red_Orchid ( $3365 )
Seat 4: Limeguy007 ( $400 )
Seat 6: Spewgene ( $1985 )
Seat 1: Drethen ( $965 )
Seat 5: TomA318 ( $1730 )
Trny:16843597 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 5h 6h ]
Limeguy007 folds.
TomA318 folds.
Spewgene folds.
hero is all-In [590]

#Game No : 2925116652
***** Hand History for Game 2925116652 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843590 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 16:01:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 67741 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: Vinny_Chenz ( $1265 )
Seat 3: hero ( $725 )
Seat 2: Gitrdun1time ( $995 )
Seat 7: Red_Orchid ( $2140 )
Seat 10: longballjy ( $3065 )
Seat 5: CRASHFLAME ( $1810 )
Trny:16843590 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 2h Jd ]
Red_Orchid folds.
longballjy folds.
Gitrdun1time folds.
hero is all-In [725]

[/ QUOTE ]

HandS:

1. I would this fold PF, or push. I dont like the ambiguity. But I have called here before and if I did I would play it the same. Flop looks good.

2. Fine

3. If you were BB then this would be a good call, but I dont much care for this...you have a good stack, better to steal, youre behind A2.

4. fine, ne2

5. fold to the minreraise PF.

6. fine

7. close...I might wait for a better hand, but a push here is fine i think.

[Karak567]

To defend my 56 hand, that is one I felt the most confident with. 56s is usually a 40 % dog if it gets called and I had very few chips left with blinds and my FE was about to go to crap. Unless I messed something up sNGPT says 1.5 % push, hmm.

The 88 and QT hands were moronic, I'll give you that. I chalk them up to bad run tilt. Maybe it's time to take a day off.

[axeshigh]

56 is 39% vs a random hand. If I remove hands with cards below 7 in them, leaving aces, 66 and 55 (just to remove hands that would never ever call), 56 is a 35% dog.

[tigerite]

How can SNGPT say 1.5% push, obviously you've put them on too tight a range for calling. Here's a clue they won't call with 66+,AT+ or whatever the default setting is, I can guarantee!

[durron597]

88 bad, 84 bad, J2 bad, rest fine.

I think the problem when you push with crap is that you aren't looking at the stack size of the BB. He knows you are desperate and are pushing with a wide range and he has the chips with which to look you up.

88 I don't have to explain as someone else already did.

[tigerite]

[ QUOTE ]
88 bad, 84 bad, J2 bad, rest fine.

I think the problem when you push with crap is that you aren't looking at the stack size of the BB. He knows you are desperate and are pushing with a wide range and he has the chips with which to look you up.

88 I don't have to explain as someone else already did.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is so very true. It's why I love to pick up any kind of hand here, because the stuff they call with defies belief. Yeah, sometimes you lose as a 60/40 favourite but most times you don't and double up, and are right back in it.

My personal favourite so far was someone calling with 7 2 sooted. I mean, wtf? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ace_in_the_hole]

I like the 56s push, I never mind showing down when I have suited connectors, so long as none of my draws or outs are counterfited. Oh, and you have less than <5 BB, it's go time! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Messy_Jesse]

One of the things that stands out most to me is that a ton of your losing hands are pushes from the button. Not that this is a bad thing, as the button is a great place to push, but if you push here too often, you're going to lower your opponents calling requirements. A lot of times, pushing from one or two off the buttton can add a lot of folding equity I think, especially considering that "at the 55s often times personal views on pushes" are important.

Other than that though, I really didnt like the 88 hand, as it felt pretty obvious that you were really far behind.

[pineapple888]

Without reading the other replies, you seem to be playing quite a bit too loose.

I really only agree with your line on hand #2.

I think the 55s are still donkish enough that you have to have some standards for pushing, unless things are truly desperate.

Also, on hand #1, be careful about calling with "pot odds" here with a hand that is likely to be dominated. It's a minraise, but you can still fold to it. The reverse implied odds can kill you when you hit and still bust out. I'd rather call w rags here than QTo.

[zambonidrivr]

i'll call with 72 off when i have a huge pile and shortie is desparate. i almost always suck out. that is my fav thing about this game. or shoving garbage and having some wise ass call with AK for me to only take his ass out. I LOVE BUBBLE PLAY

[Nick M]

i just looked at the first hand...calling 150 more with Q10o is not a good play. Hmmmm I can't really comment on the pushes because they have more to do with feel and image than anything else. I don't like raising with 88 at the 25/50 level at all.

this is Party right??? I thought you only got 1000 chips...maybe i just can't count right.

another thing, alot of people push on the button when low. But I don't like that to much. Especially when holding a hand like J2 or 84. It doesn't hurt to wait one more hand to see if it gets folded to you, and possibly pick up a better hand. It also looks less like a steal.

[tigerite]

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i'll call with 72 off when i have a huge pile and shortie is desparate. i almost always suck out. that is my fav thing about this game. or shoving garbage and having some wise ass call with AK for me to only take his ass out. I LOVE BUBBLE PLAY

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The guy didn't have a huge pile, he barely had me covered. Also this is usually a -EV play, so keep doing it by all means

[Nick M]

you think calling with Q10o isn't bad????? Jesus i don't know. I have no interest in playing Q10o OOP for a raise. And if multitabling I absolute hate this call.

Looks like you already have gotten some good feedback so I won't comment on specific hands.

I will say first that 25 buyins isn't much of a downswing, s..t happens. There is however a fine line between playing solid agressive and overagressive. I think you have crossed that line as your play seems a little impatient to me. Back off, take a deep breath and see the forest from the trees.

GL.

[AA suited]

w/o reading any of the responses, here are my opinions:

#1: fold preflop. but since you called, it's a no brainer with all-in check/raise with tpgk. if he was trapping with kk/aa, then thats poker.

#2: i would have pushed also. what did sngpt say?

#3: good call. if he has a2o, then so be it. again, what does sngpt say?

#4: yup, i would have pushed with any 2 as the button. sngpt says?

#5: ep+2 with 88 lvl3... i would have limped and folded to mp's 4bb raise. (there are too many players left to act, and you have a healthy stack. not worth the risk so early in the sng.) but since you raised to 200, and mp reraised to 425, i would have just called. he wasnt going to lay down that hand preflop.

i dont know what i would have done on the flop. sometimes i'll do a stop and go. other times check/fold if i dont have the overpair or set.

#6: yup, i would have pushed. Sngpt says?

btw- what's your read on Red_Orchid? he plays ALOT, but i wrote nothing down for him?!

#7: depends...if you are going to have another lvl5 orbit, fold j2s. if next time you post is lvl6, then i would push js2. Sngpt says?

ps- please # each tourny next time /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[adanthar]

I'd have folded 84o and J2o but I think the worst hand in here is the 88 hand, in which you made 2 decisions that were both really bad.

QTo is kinda funny because six months ago I'd have said to fold. A bunch of multis later, I would never fold this to a button minraise in an MTT and don't think calling is terrible in an SNG. I'd prefer pushing, though.

[suited_ace]

I'm just not going to repeat what other people said (I agree almost completely w/ Bigwig), but I'll tell you this: time for a poker break. You need a fresh (re)start.

[Nick M]

i think 25 buyins is a huge amount to drop. If you don't play full time, this is month crushing.

[Karak567]

Thanks for the replies guys. Some good info from some great posters here. I think you are right, I do need a little "break." I didn't play any SNGs today, although I did play two MTTs and make the money in both, which was confidence boosting.

I know I am a better player than that 88 hand and I think, if I can keep my cool, I can be one of the best at the 55s. My problem is I often lose my discipline and am plagued by FPS.

Really don't have any reads on that red guy either.

I am going to drop to the 33s until I get my confidence back. I just cashed out and bought a 2001FP recently too, eeeeek.

[axeshigh]

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i think 25 buyins is a huge amount to drop. If you don't play full time, this is month crushing.

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Well I, and I would guess most of the 8-tablers 10-15% ROIers, have a 10-15 buyin drop every other day and a 25 buyin drop every other week. It happens.

[tigerite]

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i think 25 buyins is a huge amount to drop. If you don't play full time, this is month crushing.

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I'm on a 30 buyin heater, though.. and I've not even played 100 yet /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[tigerite]

Ok well here's what I would do

#1 Fold
#2 Push (very easy)
#3 Push (ditto)
#4 VERY close, but I think I fold, as both the stacks to act are huge and will call with absolute crap (but not LOADS more than they have to to make it -$EV for us, unless they call with loads of suited kings and other crud)
#5 I'd just limp, not raise. I'd not be in this position so I don't know
#6 I just think they call too much here, but it's not as bad as I thought at first.
#7 Depends how loose the blinds are, as they both have you covered by quite a bit, but not too much that a call won't hurt them. I think I'd push this too.

[bennies]

Everyone helped already. I just want to say that you shouldn't change too much. Besides the 88 and the 84 I think your play is fine. The 56s and the J2 I believe are easily +EV.

It seems that personal views on pushes are indeed important judging by the conflicting responses you are getting on the 84 hand and j2 hand among others.

I just wanted to add that these situations have to be put into context to really make a good decision. I can say j2, that's crap wait for a better hand which would be my default play but then again you can almost always make an argument for pushing as the first one in to steal the blinds so I can't criticize without knowing the context. If you have not played a hand for almost 2 rounds it might be advisable to push with a hand that I would normally chuck, see what I mean? At some point context becomes more important than the cards you hold and without knowing the context it's hard to criticize. Or to put it another way, as we used to say when I lived in Canada - "you are your own liquor control boad", (I hope you get my drift even if you haven't heard that saying).

The QT hand hand also shows how there is room for different styles, almost everyone says fold and then along comes the much respected adanthar and says pushing is better. Calling, folding and pushing all have some merit, you could certainly argue it either way and it just goes to show what an interesting game poker can be. Adanthar's comment is also interesting in that he said 6 months ago he would have folded the QT, just goes to show that good players are constantly re-evaluating their game which I'm sure is as it should be. Evolve or get left behind.

Wise decision to drop down to get your confidence back, no shame in that and I'm happy to not have you to contend with in the 55's though I'm sure you'll be back soon. I have played some 33's myself when running really bad and it has worked out good for me and I have usually came back to 55's very quickly.

Good post!

Whether you play full time or not is irrelevant. 25 buyins is 25 buyins either way and 25 buyin drops are not uncommon at all. I don't keep stats on stuff like this but I would estimate (very roughly) that I have had 3-4 25 buyin drops over my last 2000 sng's and yes I did show a decent profit through those 2000.

[AA suited]

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Thanks for the replies guys. Some good info from some great posters here. I think you are right, I do need a little "break." I didn't play any SNGs today, although I did play two MTTs and make the money in both, which was confidence boosting.

I know I am a better player than that 88 hand and I think, if I can keep my cool, I can be one of the best at the 55s. My problem is I often lose my discipline and am plagued by FPS.

Really don't have any reads on that red guy either.

I am going to drop to the 33s until I get my confidence back. I just cashed out and bought a 2001FP recently too, eeeeek.

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hehe.. always happens when you buy something big.

i bought a car, 2001f, and a laptop in the same month, then a 649 game breakeven streak hit. YOW! i was ready to fill out a McDonalds application.

i just moved up to the 109s and i found it a very hard transition from the 55s......you just have to make a slow change...play 2 tables and pay close attention to the players....until you get the hang of the play....make one day of the week only 55s....keep the rest in the 33s to make sure you dont loose too much money...soon enough ull be doing 2/3 days and then the full switch and dominating......

[pooh74]

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I'd have folded 84o and J2o but I think the worst hand in here is the 88 hand, in which you made 2 decisions that were both really bad.

QTo is kinda funny because six months ago I'd have said to fold. A bunch of multis later, I would never fold this to a button minraise in an MTT and don't think calling is terrible in an SNG. I'd prefer pushing, though.

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I agree re: QT...

Am I the only one here who thinks the 84 hand is a push (besides OP obviously)? I know its a terrible hand, but is waiting one more hand that big a difference? I dont want to end up in the blinds here before I take matters into my own hands, and UTG pushes as the shortstack always appear more fishy and are thus more likely called typically....i dunno...I think SNGPT would say its +EV (havent run it.

[tigerite]

I have, it's +$EV only if they both call with 23%, that's any ace any pair, and I believe they call with more than that here as your stack is miniscule compared to theirs.. that is the problem.

[pooh74]

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I have, it's +$EV only if they both call with 23%, that's any ace any pair, and I believe they call with more than that here as your stack is miniscule compared to theirs.. that is the problem.

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So do you think waiting for the next hand is more +EV then pushing here (statistically we assume we should be dealt a better hand on average) and if lets say, the next hand we are dealt T8, do you wait for fate in the BB? I dunno, I would push the 84 and not be so displeased with myself regardless of the result.

Note as well that half my reasoning for this push is taking into account that I am half the stack of 3rd place here. Cards are sooooted and live...aint that bad. (better question is always "how did I get to this moment of desperation?" which is why "bust out" hands are not always that helpful to analyze out of context)

[tigerite]

8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 4 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif is sooted?! /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[pooh74]

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8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 4 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif is sooted?! /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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oops, I am a solitaire player at heart I guess. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Thought they were, anyway, doesnt matter that much...3-4%?

but still, my question still stands. When you pass here what is your course of action, what range do you push UTG next hand?

[tigerite]

I really don't know, to be honest. It's one of those "I'd have to be there".

By the way I am already allowing for this push to be exactly neutral EV, without any added +0.5% or whatever, because of the fact we're desperate.

[pooh74]

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I really don't know, to be honest. It's one of those "I'd have to be there".

By the way I am already allowing for this push to be exactly neutral EV, without any added +0.5% or whatever, because of the fact we're desperate.

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So BB is getting, off the top of my head, like 2-1 to call...yeah its probably a -EV push, but you might not get another +EV situation until you're in the blinds in which case EVERYTHING is +EV. (because you have nothing left.)

[AA suited]

[ QUOTE ]
#Game No : 2925136332
***** Hand History for Game 2925136332 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16843523 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, October 24, 16:05:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 67520 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: davidkimdh ( $686 )
Seat 2: AtlBrvs4Life ( $1870 )
Seat 3: hero ( $997 )
Seat 5: crizz111 ( $2560 )
Seat 8: mmorton19 ( $3887 )
Trny:16843523 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 4d 8h ]
davidkimdh folds.
AtlBrvs4Life folds.
hero is all-In [997]


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so if you dont push with any 2 as the button, when do you push?!

when AtlBrvs4Life ($1870) is the bb and you hope you get a hand that can stand pushing through 4 players???