77 UTG in a $55, 5 handed>played alright?

***** Hand History for Game 2924544057 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16840559 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, October 24, 13:07:10 EDT 2005
Table Table 67017 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Hero ( $1625 )
Seat 2: houndcool ( $2705 )
Seat 3: BlizzardStrm ( $3200 )
Seat 4: landuongngoc ( $1300 )
Seat 10: sdw1975 ( $1170 )
Trny:16840559 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 7c 7d ]
Hero raises [400].
houndcool folds.
BlizzardStrm folds.
landuongngoc is all-In [1225]
sdw1975 folds.
Hero calls [900].

Is the raise alright? Is the call alright? I don't feel very good about this. /images/graemlins/smile.gif My read on the player is that he is not super good, and not too bad. Just average. (great read, huh?) lol

[psyduck]

Nothing you can do. In fact, I'd just open push here.

[bigt439]

If you're going to call all-in, you should probably just open push, which is fine I think.

[zambonidrivr]

i'm not raising this preflop. i'm limping with 7's so i can get away with max FE in the cases this happens. When limping here, I think you can almost push any flop provided SB completes and bb checks.

i think it's early to be shoving it all in here preflop. since you raised, i think you must now call provided your stack.

NH -- good post

Does anyone else think I can open push this? I don't think that's very good..

The reason I raise (and not call) is that I will take the blinds a decent percentage of the time, and with a caller I will often take the pot on the flop (especially if a blind calls > position). Blinds are big. Does anyone agree with this? How about in the CO/button?

BTW, folding is definately wrong, right?

[zambonidrivr]

folding is dead wrong.
i only like calling here.
sb & bb are going to need 2 pair or better to call your flop push. doyouseewhy

[bigt439]

Pushing > Raising > Limping > Folding

IMO.

If you're going to call a push though, why not just push to get QJs or something to fold instead of pushing over you? I guess it's a function of how often a dominated hand pushes against you, but I don't like the idea of "trapping" with 77. I think you should just maximize FE and push. Limping lets at least one, usually two, people see a flop against your very vulnerable hand and will be gross if you're raised anywhere.

[zambonidrivr]

pushing is also acceptable. i think raising is the worst idea here per reasons given by bigtits

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sb & bb are going to need 2 pair or better to call your flop push. doyouseewhy

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Nope.

I opened the hand in SNGPT. If everybody has a loose call range (44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+) it is exactly +0.5%. I would be very surprised if anyone at the table is looser than that. So it's +EV to push!

So I should have pushed here? Since folding is wrong, the raise is wrong, and if I call I'm forced to fold if someone pushes over me, and if overcards flop I'm forced to fold to bets of the blinds/callers.

[downtown]

I'd probably just push here, but I wouldn't be too excited about getting a caller. But that's why I'd push. I really hate just raising if you're gonna call the push. And I hate not calling the push if I'm gonna raise that much... Limping is just ok, and since I'm a weak/tight batch, I don't mind this too much unless my table has gotten BB150 push happy, which has happened before, and I wouldn't limp in that situation.

So yeah, in my mind, Pushing > Calling > Raising = Folding. I really don't like a non-push raise.

Booyah.

Another question for you guys: when DO you raise (vs calling and pushing)? What position and stack do you want before a raise is correct?

[xJMPx]

I thinking I'm pushing this hand.

Being so close to the 10xBB mark, I really don't like limping and folding doesn't seem right either. Although, I would consider it.

So, I would probably push and give myself the mind sight that I'm winning this hand most often and if I get called an beat, them's the breaks.

The open raise leaves yourself facing a raise and now getting better than 2:1 to call, but now you're thinking you losing this hand often but have putting on your money in anyway.

Ps. SNGPT says it's +0.6% $eV to push here assuming all four opponents are loose (44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+)

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Ps. SNGPT says it's +0.6% $eV to push here assuming all four opponents are loose (44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+)

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Mine says .5%. I found out why. My '% of full big blind discount' at Edit>Equity Modeling was set to 49% in stead of 50%. Crazy how that makes the difference. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ZeroPointMachine]

Pushing is fine here but I don't have a problem with a min-raise either. If I've already pushed several hands this is a spot where I might slow down and throw in a scary "he might have aces why did he slow down" min-raise. If I re-raised it becomes read dependent but I can live with walking away from this hand. At a really aggressive table these can even be folded from this position. Calling is always bad I think.

The table was rather passive. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[bigt439]

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Ps. SNGPT says it's +0.6% $eV to push here assuming all four opponents are loose (44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+)

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I feel like this was said to make a point (by several posters) and not to say that's what would be their ranges, but I just want to emphasize how ridiculous these calling ranges are. These are waaaaaaaaay to wide. This push is big time +EV.