VPIP and PFR stats

[BigBiceps]

my overall: VPIP/PFR is 22/12.

my tilt: VPIP/PFR is 27/18.

What are you guy's stats, and what is considered expert?

[jason_t]

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my overall: VPIP/PFR is 22/12.

my tilt: VPIP/PFR is 27/18.

What are you guy's stats, and what is considered expert?

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Postflop is where it's at.

[QTip]

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my overall: VPIP/PFR is 22/12.

my tilt: VPIP/PFR is 27/18.

What are you guy's stats, and what is considered expert?

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JT already said what needed to be said here. But, I'd also like to add these thoughts.

VPIP - So someone plays 20% of their hands....what does that mean? It just means the play 20% of their hands. It doesn't mean they're playing the right ones in the right circumstances.

PFR% - So someone raises 12% of their hands. What does that mean? It just mean they raise 12% of their hands. It doesn't mean they're raising the right hands in the right situations.

Sometimes I notice someone and they look like they have decent preflop stats. But, then I see something very awkward. They play any ace, any position. Which means they're mucking other good hands, and playing very poor ones. However, their stats look like they might know something about the game....they don't. There are all kinds of funky ideas out there about the game. Numbers can certainly be deceiving.

[MyTurn2Raise]

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my overall: VPIP/PFR is 22/12.

my tilt: VPIP/PFR is 27/18.

What are you guy's stats, and what is considered expert?

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if you want to compare search for the I hate Tiger Woods....AKA Stat post.

I agree with jason...postflop is where it's at. Even bonus-whores know preflop.

[AllIn3High]

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my overall: VPIP/PFR is 22/12.

my tilt: VPIP/PFR is 27/18.

What are you guy's stats, and what is considered expert?

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if you want to compare search for the I hate Tiger Woods....AKA Stat post.

I agree with jason...postflop is where it's at. Even bonus-whores know preflop.

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Yeah, it's "scary", i'm by no means an expert player, but playing at avg 22 vpip / 8 pfr $10/20 tables have certainly showed mee that profit is made after the flop. A lot of players w/ reasonable stats grossly misplays key situations (at these tables that means blind vs blind and blind vs steal)

[Perseus]

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my overall: VPIP/PFR is 22/12.

my tilt: VPIP/PFR is 27/18.

What are you guy's stats, and what is considered expert?

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if you want to compare search for the I hate Tiger Woods....AKA Stat post.

I agree with jason...postflop is where it's at. Even bonus-whores know preflop.

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