Is There a Fish Here?

[TaintedRogue]

20/40 HE @ Borgata, Atlantic City

I've got Mr. Bling Bling two seats on my right. 50 yrs old, with a nice watch, necklace & rings, whining with the woman on my left about how their property taxes (they live in the same city close to AC) have gone up to 4K per year.

Bling Bling likes to steal when he's in the HJ if it's folded to him, so I'm in the SB at that time & the BB when he has the CO. He open raised in the SB and we went to war a 1/2 dozen times when this hand came up:

3 people limp & Bling calls, the button & SB fold & I find 9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif and raise from the BB.

This is the first time I have gotten out of line in the blinds during the 5 hr session. I am an 18% flop kinda guy, who raises 95% of the time when he opens and hardly ever calls a raise preflop, chosing to either re-raise or fold, unless there are several players and I have something like T9s or better. They have to put me on something good if they have been paying attention, and, they have. They all call.

$210 in the pot and 5 players.

Flop: 7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif Q /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

I ask: "Could I ask for anything more out of a flop that doesn't at least pair my hand?"

I bet and, unfortunately, only 1 of the limpers calls and Mr. Bling raises. I call, as does the limper.

Turn: K /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Now, I ask myself, what could Mr. Bling have limped with?" I decide to try and represent AK that I raised preflop with and bet out and the limper fold, Mr. Bling raises, I re-raise and he comes over the top. Foiled again. I've got to put him on KQ here, at the least. I call.

River: T /images/graemlins/spade.gif

I have made my straight! Now, that's nice, however, I go after a ck/raise and Mr. Bling checks, foiling me again.

Thoughts?

Don't waste your time trying to get opponents to fold in these spots, it's a waste of bets. None the less, your raise preflop isn't too bad since you have to have ok equity.

On the flop I would be betting and raising at every opportunity. Heads up you're a favourite over anything except a set, and with three players in the pot it's money city.

On the turn, I would check and call, as with one card to come you are no longer a favourite. On the river, I would lead out, hoping to get raised so I can three bet.

[elindauer]

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I ask: "Could I ask for anything more out of a flop that doesn't at least pair my hand?"

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Did you actually say this out loud? After this hand, you might consider staying quiet. This tell-em-what-you-have strategy may not work so well.

-Eric

[BradL]

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Did you actually say this out loud?

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I dont think he said that out loud, if he did then, wow. That being said I 3bet the flop.

-Brad

[TaintedRogue]

/images/graemlins/grin.gif -EV, announcing the flop's strength to your hand. /images/graemlins/spade.gif

I pattern my habits after Annie Duke's brother, what's his name............Ice....oh yea.....I think....the math whiz.
Howard's the man.

[AceHigh]

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Is There a Fish Here?

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Yes or at least FPS.

3-bet the flop, don't check/raise the turn and bet the river.

Is this like the opposite espisode of Seinfeld where you play the hand the opposite of normal?

[BradL]

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/images/graemlins/grin.gif -EV, announcing the flop's strength to your hand. /images/graemlins/spade.gif

I pattern my habits after Annie Duke's brother, what's his name............Ice....oh yea.....I think....the math whiz.
Howard's the man.

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Umm what?

-Brad

[TaintedRogue]

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Is There a Fish Here?

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Yes or at least FPS.

3-bet the flop, don't check/raise the turn and bet the river.

Is this like the opposite espisode of Seinfeld where you play the hand the opposite of normal?

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I think I must have been listening to Phish at the time /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
I played the hand real bad. Didn't raise the Flop, as I didn't want to lose the limper......I wanted his 1 SB... Then I get over-aggressive on the Turn, with nothing. Then I suck out on the River and am embarrassed.

wait whats the bling bling guys name ? im a regular at 20/40 40/80 borgata i think i might know who ya talking about. This guys always donkin it up and says he never swipes his card in at poker b/c it ruins his black jack comps. Whata clown.

you gotta bet that river!

20/40 at Borgata? The correct play is just to fold until you can play a hand with Poppy.

[arod15]

You have to lead the river. Checking the river with that board is a big mistake as most opponents will check behind with such a scary board....

[GetThere1Time]

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20/40 at Borgata? The correct play is just to fold until you can play a hand with Poppy.

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"Every time you raise, he open ace for you! Open ace, Open ace... dealer never open ace for me!"

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20/40 at Borgata? The correct play is just to fold until you can play a hand with Poppy.

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hahahah, poppy is sick that guy dumps like 5-8k a week in 20/40

During the Borgata open I fell victim to the worst fate of all though...the Poppy Rush!

AA for me K6os for Poppy...flop A24 turn 3 river 5 bets on every round.

Next hand AK for me J3 for Poppy. Flop K73 turn blank river J.

Now I'm short stacked and steaming a bit....QQ for me A6 for Poppy. Flop 962 bet raise reraise cap all-in turn J river A "Ahh finally turn ace for me...never turn ace for me." Nice hand Poppy.

That hurt. If you don't run into the rush though: Poppy = mega +EV

anybody know that old bag who plays 20/40 at the borgata he goes by the initials "jrc" this guys easily like 80 and has a mouth like a sailor......i called him down one time with ace high and he didnt want to show his cards i still slow rolled him and made him show his missed flush draw....hahaha

[jimswarthow]

slow-rolling is never funny