should i have gotten more value out of this? (turned boat vs overpair) [Archive]

10-22-2005, 04:15 PM

villian is rock with 17% VP$IP, 1.7% PFR, 0.9 aggr after 185 hands, he took a long time before finally making the river call, leading me to believe that $50 was just at the cutoff of where he was still willing to call....any opinions?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 ($154.95)
MP1 ($189.45)
MP2 ($89)
CO ($119.90)
Hero ($178.60)
SB ($472.35)
BB ($193.85)
UTG ($205)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $2, 4 folds, Hero raises to $10, 1 fold, BB calls $8, UTG folds.

Flop: ($23) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB calls $16.

Turn: ($55) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB calls $20.

River: ($95) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $50, BB calls $50.

Final Pot: $195

Results in white below: 
BB has Qd Qs (two pair, queens and nines).
Hero has 8c 8d (full house, eights full of nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $195.

deadmoney98

10-22-2005, 04:44 PM

I would bet a lot more on the turn (which lets the river play much easier I think)

Seriously, hammer the [censored] out of the turn. The 8 looks like a total brick. If he is calling on the end after the ace falls, he is calling a pot sized bet (and probably even a push) on the turn. Sorry, if that sounds results oriented, but you really need to get more value in this situation when your hand is a well-disguised monster.

When a rock is calling your bets, you know he has a hand and thus will have a hard time folding, so bet aggressively.