ToP - 4th Edition Page 210

[DJ712]

Okay poker Yodas, explain to this young Jedi what page 210 in ToP means...

"On a scale of 100, you have hand 80"

Okay... How do you apply this? The top hand in poker is a royal flush (100), then King high straight flush (99) down to the wheel straight flush (90), then you have 13 quad possibilities... (2222 = 73rd best hand??)

"You have hand 80, a good hand, but not a great hand"

Using my logic, you have QUADS (5555)... lol - I think 5555 is a great hand most of the time...

So somebody please explain that page to me using Hold 'Em examples as that is the game I am most comfortable with.

I understand all the underdog stuff that follows it, but how DS came up with this "scale" is beyond me...

Help!

[DJ712]

Bueller... Bueller... Bueller...

C'mon people, I know you've read the book! Enlighten me!!

[rkiray]

Two answers :

With experience you get a feel for these things and that's probably the best answer for all your questions. But here is a rigurous way to do it. And it would probably be a good "homework" assignment to do once or twice as you are gaining experience. Do you have a copy of HPFAP? If not, get one. S & M give their rankings of starting hands. AA occurs .452 % of the time. Subtract this for KK also (true of all pairs). AKs .324, AKo .81. Keep subtracting from the table until you get to 80.

[DJ712]

lol, that didn't help me at all. Thanks for trying to make me feel like a dunce though and saying ToP is over my head. If you can't explain it, then I don't see why you're trying to dog my questions (or calling me a dunce in a roundabout way when you can't explain it yourself) by saying I need more experience. Everyone needs more experience pal.

Furthermore, I already have compiled the starting hands for Hold 'Em vs. 9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2, or 1 player.

So, if you can't answer my questions by using a Hold 'Em example, don't reply.

[DaBartman]

79% of possible hands are worse than yours and 19% are better.

[CreamPuff]

Well there are 1326 combinations of starting hands...
80% of 1326 is about 1060...

Now take your hand rankings for the situation your in
(9 handed...4 handed,etc..)
Then add all the combintations until you get (1326-1060)

so you have for example:
AA=6
KK=6
AKs=4
QQ=6
AKo=12
.
.
.
add them up till you get(1326-1060)..

I think thats right..sounds right.
From one dunce to another.